(September 17, 2019 at 6:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ Matt 7:22-23 ESV(September 17, 2019 at 5:42 pm)Belaqua Wrote: Aquinas argued that God cannot do wrong, cannot do evil.
If you want to present an argument as to why his reasoning is fallacious you are certainly welcome to.
I'll have a lash.
In order for God to be God, there must be nothing he cannot know (Plantinga, Aquinas).
God's knowledge is not discursive - that is, God does not deduce conclusions from premises. God knows all things at all times (Aquinas, Kretzmann).
An evil act is a 'thing' (Hume)
In order for God to have complete knowledge, God must have knowledge of the experience of God committing an evil act and must have always had this knowledge (Molina).
It is not enough for God to have the knowledge of what evil entails (see above), as that would not give him knowledge of the personal experience of evil (Molina).
In order for God to be God, God must have committed at least one evil act (Boru).
Boru
"I NEVER knew you"? In the Greek it's actually an integrative, or question, "When did I know you?" God then, never said He is omniscience. He obviously doesn't know everyone. Why should He? He does know the ones who are His--Period!
My girlfriend thinks I'm a stalker. Well...she's not my girlfriend "yet".
I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9
I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!
When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!
I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.
I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9
I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!
When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!
I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.