RE: Arguments against Soul
September 23, 2019 at 11:27 am
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2019 at 11:52 am by EgoDeath.)
(September 23, 2019 at 12:43 am)Belaqua Wrote:(September 23, 2019 at 12:38 am)EgoDeath Wrote: @Belaqua
So, let's try again. You seem to be real slippery in answering any questions, but I'd like to take you to task. Please read all of the questions before you reply. I'll number them to save you any confusion.
1. Do you believe that a soul exists? Why or why not?
2. What do you think the soul is exactly, if it does indeed exist?
2a. Do you consider the soul to be an observable phenomenon? Why or why not?
2b. Or, even if it doesn't exist, how are you defining the concept in order to decide that it doesn't exist?
All of these are answered, above.
Nope. I want your answers, in your words, to the precise questions I asked. If you cannot provide those answers, just say so.
(September 23, 2019 at 9:35 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t think he’s trying to be slippery. There’s nothing slippery about his answer. It was pretty detailed and explicit, in fact. I just think we aren’t used to folks like Bel on the forums. I made similar hasty presumptions about him when we first started engaging and I’ve come to realize that I was wrong. His answer here is honest (at least to me), and he’s made himself clear that he’s not asserting any kind supernatural life post body death.
Well, he never even answered me, so I disagree, I think it is quite slippery.
Also, my assumptions are not "hasty," unlike yours. I've been watching Bel's posts for the better part of a year. I know his routine well.
(September 23, 2019 at 9:39 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I think we have a tendency here (myself included) to assume that if someone isn’t a strong atheist, then they must be a theist in disguise. But that, ofc, is a false dichotomy.
Wrong.
What makes people assume he's a theist acting as an atheist are the many arguments he makes defending Christianity. Arguments, by the way, that we've heard from self-proclaimed Christians time and time again. Constantly moving the goal posts, constantly failing to state what it is he actually believes, constantly questioning and otherwise acting as a contrarian toward any and every atheist on this board, all while never actually claiming to believe in anything. He comes across like a theist, plain and simple.
Either that, or maybe he goes on to Christian boards and does the exact same shit to them. Maybe they wonder if he's an atheist in disguise. LOL!
I'm not saying he is a theist, as I honestly don't know. Nor do I really care, as his arguments are about as well-built as a sandcastle. But I sure as hell wouldn't be surprised to find out that's the case.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.