(November 30, 2019 at 7:58 am)Klorophyll Wrote: I think you missed the point of the argument, the Qur'an isn't [just] the most eloquent piece of Arabic literature, it also challenged everybody else to come up with something comparable. Also, Muhammad didn't show up out of nowhere and told the arab clans : look at my 600+ pages eloquent book of epic proportions, because in which case one can simply say he took dozens of years preparing and polishing the book with the help of the most talented linguists etc. the words were uttered almost spontaneously by Muhammad according to the situation.
So says Islamic tradition. Do we have historical evidence to back this up?
According to Catholic tradition, Mary was perpetually a virgin and assumed into heaven upon her death. Doesn't make it true.
Even so, all this shows is that Muhammad was exceptionally good with Arabic words. So even in your description of the tradition you speak of, you don't bring up anything blatantly miraculous.
Quote:The bottom line is that the way the Qur'an came into being cannot be explained (unless you have a reasonable explanation) by natural events.
So an argument from ignorance then.