[Serious] Time to embrace Islam!

[Deesse23]

I prefer news to theologian "scholars".
The point is that the majority of muslims believe death is the correct punishment for apostasy, according to the Quran. A fact you conveniently deny.

First of all, your exact claim was : Islam instructs to kill atheists. Now you backpedal to apostasy, great honesty.

Wrong.
When i entered the conversation, this was my first response to you

Second, punishment for apostasy is not in the Qur'an, but in a hadith. This already shows how much news taught you about the religion.

Dont tell me, tell all those muslims who think you are wrong. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, or are you just flat out ignoring what other people are writing?

Apostasy isn't simply changing belief, it means leaving the Muslim community after joining it...

Thank you, Captain Obvious, i already knew, as i said in my first post. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, or are you just flat out ignoring what other people are writing?

...with the political intent of spreading disorder,

Can you read minds, or how do you know that apostates do want to spread disorder? Or are you just making shit up, as per usual.

You think scholars know better what the majority of muslims believe than statistics and polls? Oh well...

Yeah, that what being a scholar means: being better than the majority.

Wow, the stupid hurts. I was not asking about the beliefs being correct, but about how many people have a belief, twice.
Do you have problems with reading comprehension, or are you just flat out ignoring what other people are writing?
By the way: How does the scholar know he is *better* than the majority and his interpretation of holy book is right? ...a book based on which your people are killing each other over the course of 1500 years now, because they disagree.
I am not impressed at all by religious *scholars*. Its like being the *best wanker*, while in reality its all wanking, with the same results.

...and who gave them their certificate of being *correct*? Other scholars? And those got theirs from...?

The same way you listen(ed) to your professors with PhDs while shutting up without asking them this retarded question.

Oh , puh-leaze. Puh-leaze dont tell me you are that ignorant! My professors always were able to demonstrate that what they say is correct. They also encouraged me to always question what they say, to not accept their authority on thei rtitle alone. How about your religious scholars?

Weird, he saz the same about you. So who is correct and why? A question both of you cant answer.

You can say who is right by him dodging my question.

Weird, both of you have the same non-answer. Like both variants of your religion are the same bullshit.

Which scholars? Those who agree with you or those who agree with Atlass? Those who advocate killing apostates or those who dont?
No thanks, i prefer to think for myself.

Atlas doesn't believe in scholars, just like you.

Good for him, he may think for himself (too). Even if its bullshit mostly (as with slavery and islam).

He thinks the Qur'an is self-explanatory, when the Qur'an itself refers to exterior sources of inquiry[Muhammad's sayings].

So, god writes a book that he wants humans to explain, got it. = Bullshit

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That's no fun for me either. I came to the (sad) conclusion that you may not be exactly the kind of people to take effort seriously, everybody's mind here seems to be so strangely made up against any possible religious case. We only see short, seemingly clever, but ultimately lazy and empty replies.

Countless (serious) replies of mine here have been blatantly ignored, I don't see any reason to 'play' a bit longer when effort becomes one sided.

Lazy? You have no evidence for your god. Have you provided a well-evidenced and soundly reasoned argument for your positive claim that a god exists? Did I miss that somewhere?

His own standard arguments and lazy tactics have no traction here. Now he is butthurt and takes his ball and leaves the playground. Not the first one, not the last one.
Pleas enote as well: He has the biggest arguments in here with a fellow muslim , which is hardly the fault of the forum or atheists within the forum.