(January 20, 2020 at 5:41 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The Hijab originates from this Quranic verse:
Quote:https://quran.com/24/31?translations=
Dr. Ghali
(31) And say to the female believers to cast down their be holdings, and preserve their private parts, and not display their adornment except such as is outward, and let them fix (Literally: strike) closely their veils over their bosoms, and not display their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husbands' fathers, or their sons, or their husbands' sons, or their brothers, or their brothers's sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or what their right hands possess, or (male) followers, men without desire (Literally: without being endowed with "sexual" desire) or young children who have not yet attained knowledge of women's privacies, and they should not strike their legs (i.e., stamp their feet) so that whatever adornment they hide may be known. And repent to Allah altogether, (O) you believers, that possibly you would prosper.
Covering the chest, legs, probably the hair too and not acting in ways that trigger the sexual reaction in men is what the verse tell believing women to do in my opinion.
Ironically; the Quran is full of other sentences that cover the prevention of blood-shedding, robbery, respecting parents..., but gullible Sunnies/Shiites focus on this one verse to abuse women via it by twisting its meaning according to their will.
About modesty, what does this verse worth if the woman covered all her body, but acted like a slut and had sex on the street?
Modesty starts in the heart. I can name you non-believing atheist women who are more modest than a Muslim in full-Hijab wearing it only to escape the abuse of her family.
- I agree with what has been said so far (I'm from Turkey by the way / Hello to everyone).
I believe that the issue is this: There are some commandments that were adapted to the 6th century AD. You have been talking about chastity for instance. But what is chastity in the year 2022? And if there is an issue of chastity for women, are you also saying that a man also has no right "to act like a slut" for instance?
- These are very serious issues. I think that we have to remember that in the 6th century AD there was no method of contraception. Therefore, all sexual activity had to be limited to the matrimonial institution. This has remained the same perhaps until the second half of the 20th century and the begining of the sexual liberation movement.
Now in todays world, who am I to tell two adult person of same or separate sex not to have sexual relations outside marriage? (Provided that they are single persons of course). This is my view on the subject.
And Yes, the Hijab was about simblicity and today it became not even a religious symbol and totally a political symbol. An affirmation of support for the middle eastern version of Nazi / Fashist / Putinist ideology. (This is very unfortunate but this is how I see it)