The hijab (etc) is immodest

[Leonardo17]

2) I / He is not puting any word in nobody's mouth. The officail view on that is: If she is >18 it's her decision. 

Well we can give the "official view" the middle finger. The number "18" is arbitrary and reaching that age doesn't correspond to any abrupt maturation in the girl's brain, so why are you asking Muslim women to follow the so-called official view ?

3) That can be relative. Very relative. Let me ask you a question: How do you know if you want to mary a girl who is wearing the Hijab?

By official, I mean the view of many people who believe in religious tolerance and also believe on the principle of laicity (at least those that I know of).
 
What would you thing about me if I had a 7 or 10 year old daughter and I told her that pious women must be dressed like this, or else, she is a slut (whatever that means in our times). Does that make me a narrow minded person or not? It’s as simple as that.
 
- Well ok, Let’s make that 16 if you like. But it has to be her decision. Not the father or mother, not the big brother, not the regional government (as it is currently happening in Indonesia if you are following the news). But her decision. Than, I am with you.
 
It is actually permissible to look at your fiancée and, according to some anecdotes in Sahih Abi Dawood, this includes whatever "features" -for the lack of a better word- in her body that'll make you attracted to her.
 
As I said. I am a Turkish person. I don’t know Arab writer very well. In my culture, Before the declaration of the Republic in 1923, I would probably have sent one of my female relatives to see if the woman I wanted to marry had positive and healthy physical features. That used to be the tradition in the 19th century. And I am not criticizing it. That was the day, that was the practice.
 
In today’s world, I will have to ask you for a quotation from your Salih Abi, or any other writer that you may know on the issue of why a Muslim women deserves the flames of hell if she decides to enjoy the sea and the sun like everybody else in one of the most beautiful beaches of the world?
 
Let this be my most “Official” question to you.
 
I am breaking down the next chapter into several parts:
 
This means that you don't know much about Islam either,
 
You shouldn’t make such commentaries because you don’t know anything about me.
 
 
 
you're just here trying to "school" Muslims that they should follow some official view,
 
I have said in many places that everything I wrote is my own personal view and there is nothing official about it. (I am not from the government, or any government)
 
 the same official view that led to unimaginably high counts of rapes and all kinds of sexual violence, to say nothing of the explosion of the porn industry in the countries that you regard as role models of valuing women.
 
This is not the subject that is being debated in this topic. And you are referring to a very wide subject. But the view that democratic society are decadent or degenerate as you seem to be wanting to imply is simply not true.
Sexual violence is more hidden in closed and repressive societies (like in India for instance) and more visible in open and democratic societies.
When they captures Bin Laden’s laptop, they saw that almost half of the hard disk was full of porn (the same is true for almost all captured AL-Quaida leaders). Because in societies where sexuality is repressed, sexual obsessions and perversions tend to increase. (ask any psychologist).
 
And no: I don’t “school” anyone. I am a translator, not a teacher. I am not even an expert on any subject. I am just chatting here: I am a simple man with simple, personal views. J