RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
December 29, 2019 at 10:50 am
(December 28, 2019 at 12:17 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:So islam is just sleight of hand with strings and snakes and snake oil sales pitches that the magic book PROMOTED. INTENTIONALLY.(December 26, 2019 at 7:08 pm)Stoneheart Wrote: This is a reason for unbelief:
What kept men back from belief when Guidance came to them, was nothing but this: they said, "Has Allah sent a man like us to be His Messenger?" 17:94.
And it seems Muslims that will only believe in the Quran are also unbelievers according to the Quran:
Then sent We our messengers in succession: every time there came to a people their messenger, they accused him of falsehood: so We made them follow each other in punishment: We made them as a tale that is told: So away with a people that will not believe! 23:44
There is, in their stories, instruction for men endued with understanding. It is not a tale invented, but a confirmation of what went before it,- a detailed exposition of all things, and a guide and a mercy to any such as believe. 12:111
Before thee We sent messengers to many nations, and We afflicted the nations with suffering and adversity, that they might learn humility. 6:42
O mankind! We created you from a single pair of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other not that ye may despise each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is he who is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted with all things. 49:13
But they said: "Our Lord! Place longer distances between our journey-stages": but they wronged themselves therein. At length We made them as a tale that is told, and We dispersed them all in scattered fragments. Verily in this are Signs for every soul that is patiently constant and grateful. 34:19
Those who deny Allah and His messengers, and those who wish to separate Allah from His messengers, saying: "We believe in some but reject others": And those who wish to take a course midway,- 4:150
They are in truth equally unbelievers; and we have prepared for unbelievers a humiliating punishment. 4:151
The messenger -Mohammed peace be upon him- is dead. How do you suggest that I ask him for an interpretation or advice?
Then what is Quran:49:13 and 4:151 has to do with this topic?
Again; in bold: the prophet is dead.
(December 26, 2019 at 4:56 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’m being tongue in cheek, Atlas. But, the book certainly contains claims of magic that the three of you have swallowed hook, line and sinker.
Magic is nothing more but a trick; even the Quran said it. Slight-of-a hand and a couple of games with strings and staffs are snake-oil folklore tricks that the Quran actually fought.
See, this christmas day just past, everyone, post prandial, is expected to perform a "party piece". Most sing or such, I perform magic. I can guarantee you that some present walked away convinced that I actually read their minds. They are, of course, flat wrong. But you are among that small cadre of the gullible.