Plantinga's "Free Will" defense contradicts Christianity

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Plantinga's "Free Will" defense contradicts Christianity

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RE: Plantinga's "Free Will" defense contradicts Christianity

February 8, 2020 at 11:56 am

(February 8, 2020 at 11:34 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Agreed. So what would be the objection to God having created every human being to freely act or not act in a manner pleasing to God? You would always be free to do x but you would always freely choose to do not-x, and vice versa. All possibility of sin and the attendant punishment would be removed without the abrogation of free will.

Boru

If I understood correctly, you're asking why does sin get punished in the first place, why not just allow it?

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