(March 1, 2020 at 8:21 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(March 1, 2020 at 8:04 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: I don't think you even understand the argument.
We, as mortal, transcient creatures, have absolutely no saying about what is inherently designed, and what appears designed, that's why I extended the definition of design, it's simply the right definition to use in a formal argument. In this world, we simply pick existent stuff and work with it, we never ever create something ex nihilo.
Nope. That is not why your argument fails.
Try again.
You're arguing against a designer which is like Plato's Demiurge.
That's not what Klorophyll is defending.
A lot of modern Christians believe in something like a Demiurge, but not Klorophyll. You are arguing against something he hasn't advocated.