[Quranic Reflection]: The universe is expanding

[WinterHold]

It refers obviously to God making the universe dynamic and expanding; not static as the pre-telescope world thought.

People in the past -especially Europeans- prosecuted whoever says the earth was round and not flat. No Grandizer; so many humans are indeed blind to this day. Take flat-earthers as an example.

Well, it's not obvious to me, Atlas. As a fellow Arabic speaking poster, the word "wase3" and its many derivatives is related more to "wide" or "widening" rather than "expand". Even flat-earthers would agree, I think, that the sky is wide and that the earth is "spread out".

I think I know where you're going: you mean واسع is more related to fasee7 فسيح ?
i.e the verse spoke about God making the heavens vast or spacious; not "expanded".

But my defense is the word "وانا ل"; the "ل" doesn't refer to the past, but to an action that will happen in the future.

i.e, if God said "and the sky is wide" then your point is valid. But he said that the widening is going to happen, the letter "ل" turned the meaning of the word to something "that will happen".

The expansion of the universe is happening right now, but it will also keep happening in the future.
That takes away the relationship to the word "فسيح" because the letter "ل" just turned the word into a verb that will happen in the future.

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At work.


   Ah.  WinterHold is selectively answering posts now?

So, in case you missed it WinterHold, I'm still awaiting a response as to what NEW piece of knowledge the Quran holds that science is YET to discover.

Cheers.

Yes. I find huge enjoyment ditching your perfect, well-put arguments that I refuted before.
So back to the same answer that I gave to you:


https://atheistforums.org/thread-61164-p...pid1984846

WinterHold said:

Hello to you.

Your previous question -which I answered fully- can be seen in your earlier reply here:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-61164-p...pid1984628

WinterHold said:

No. Jumping from your previous point which was about Pluto -or Frudo- to convert the Quran into an article about Nostradamus will not work as an argument.

You insist on treating the Quran as an article about Nostradamus, and I reject your point since it doesn't make any sense; the Quran is not a book of prophecies.

But there is this verse that describes what non-believers do when faced with Quranic verses:

Sura 17, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 89 )   And We have certainly diversified for the people in this Qur'an from every [kind] of example, but most of the people refused [anything] except disbelief.

( 90 )   And they say, "We will not believe you until you break open for us from the ground a spring.

( 91 )   Or [until] you have a garden of palm tress and grapes and make rivers gush forth within them in force [and abundance]

( 92 )   Or you make the heaven fall upon us in fragments as you have claimed or you bring Allah and the angels before [us]

( 93 )   Or you have a house of gold or you ascend into the sky. And [even then], we will not believe in your ascension until you bring down to us a book we may read." Say, "Exalted is my Lord! Was I ever but a human messenger?"

So..if I said right, you'll say left. If I say up, you will say down. If I say the sun shines you'll say no it doesn't.
So..Exalted is my Lord! Was I ever but a human believing in Mohammed's message?