RE: Question about "faith"
September 16, 2020 at 1:50 pm
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2020 at 1:50 pm by Abaddon_ire.)
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:Do you knowe god exists in the same way that your wife exists?(September 16, 2020 at 1:03 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: And just what does, "Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted in spite of your changing moods" mean, anyway?
It means trust. For example, if your wife says she loves you, faith is trusting that she loves you even on days when your mood would have you believe otherwise.
You can show me your wife. Can you show me your god? Of course you can't.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Keep in mind that the entirety of the Christian walk is an interpersonal relationship with God.And that is exactly useless to anyone else. For obvious reasons.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Many Christians struggle with unnecessary guilt, for example. Faith is trusting that God loves you, even when you mess up and can't love yourself, because he has promised as much.That is why christianity is immoral. Christians can do whatever they like and appeal to a death bed confession.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Faith only applies within such interpersonal contexts.That is why it is useless.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: It is a trust relationship with God.Which one?
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: It has nothing to do with evidence or knowledge or beliefs;Surprise. You finally got something right for a change. You are admitting that you have nothing.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: at least not in any context outside of an interpersonal one.But you have no personal relationship with any god. If you did, you could demonstrate it. And you wont because you can't.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:Do you knowe god exists in the same way that your wife exists?(September 16, 2020 at 1:03 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: And just what does, "Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted in spite of your changing moods" mean, anyway?
It means trust. For example, if your wife says she loves you, faith is trusting that she loves you even on days when your mood would have you believe otherwise.
You can show me your wife. Can you show me your god? Of course you can't.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Keep in mind that the entirety of the Christian walk is an interpersonal relationship with God.And that is exactly useless to anyone else. For obvious reasons.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Many Christians struggle with unnecessary guilt, for example. Faith is trusting that God loves you, even when you mess up and can't love yourself, because he has promised as much.That is why christianity is immoral. Christians can do whatever they like and appeal to a death bed confession.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Faith only applies within such interpersonal contexts.That is why it is useless.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: It is a trust relationship with God.Which one?
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: It has nothing to do with evidence or knowledge or beliefs;Surprise. You finally got something right for a change. You are admitting that you have nothing.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: at least not in any context outside of an interpersonal one.But you have no personal relationship with any god. If you did, you could demonstrate it. And you wont because you can't.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:Do you knowe god exists in the same way that your wife exists?(September 16, 2020 at 1:03 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: And just what does, "Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted in spite of your changing moods" mean, anyway?
It means trust. For example, if your wife says she loves you, faith is trusting that she loves you even on days when your mood would have you believe otherwise.
You can show me your wife. Can you show me your god? Of course you can't.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Keep in mind that the entirety of the Christian walk is an interpersonal relationship with God.And that is exactly useless to anyone else. For obvious reasons.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Many Christians struggle with unnecessary guilt, for example. Faith is trusting that God loves you, even when you mess up and can't love yourself, because he has promised as much.That is why christianity is immoral. Christians can do whatever they like and appeal to a death bed confession.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Faith only applies within such interpersonal contexts.That is why it is useless.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: It is a trust relationship with God.Which one?
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: It has nothing to do with evidence or knowledge or beliefs;Surprise. You finally got something right for a change. You are admitting that you have nothing.
(September 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: at least not in any context outside of an interpersonal one.But you have no personal relationship with any god. If you did, you could demonstrate it. And you wont because you can't.