(September 16, 2020 at 7:20 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(September 16, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Sal Wrote: Feeling a sense of Happiness, without correlates.
if you want me to be more specific, a sense of warmth in the body and a tingling sensation in the stomach and torso. As well, when unexpected, a sense of surprise and feeling of awe and wonder.
Lol that's perfect. Sadness can be physiologically expressed through tears, for example, they are more or less interchangeable. The verse "Jesus wept" can be exchanged with "Jesus was sad" and the meaning remains the same (John 11:35).
By your logic, in the story of Peter sinking into the sea, the words "O you of little faith, why did you doubt?” can be exchanged with "O you of little sense of warmth in the body and tingling sensation in the stomach and torso, why did you doubt" (Matthew 14:31).
That is not a description of faith; it is perhaps a description of specific religious or spiritual experiences that happen to be accompanied by awe, happiness, etc.
Your problem of the physiological responses from the internal experience of faith is not mine. I remember well of how it felt when I attributed, what was later described to me as faith, was.
Your attempt to elevate 'faith' beyond some level of comprehension is exactly why faith is useless.
Do you even know what 'faith' is? I'm asking sincerely, since you seem to be having a non-cognitivist stance on it.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
