RE: Question about "faith"
September 23, 2020 at 4:23 pm
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2020 at 4:26 pm by possibletarian.)
(September 23, 2020 at 11:57 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Here's a quote from one of the founders of my church; it's possibly the most widely read and distributed book within my church, first published back in 1892:
"God never asks us to believe, without giving sufficient evidence upon which to base our faith.
Excellent
Quote:His existence,
Evidence ?
Quote:His character,
What evidence do you have of his character ?
Quote:the truthfulness of His word,
Hmmmmm
Quote:are all established by testimony that appeals to our reason; and this testimony is abundant.
So other people who believe the same, like in any other religion, cult, or conspiracy theory ? who also rely on other people's testimony. At some point it has to touch reality with proof wouldn't you think.
Quote:Yet God has never removed the possibility of doubt.
That's what you would expect with no proof or convincing evidence.. aye ? If it was convincing we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Quote:Our faith must rest upon evidence, not demonstration.
Quote:(E.G.W., Steps to Christ)
The reasoning of others without proof or evidence we can't agree is convincing evidence ?
Quote:The reasonableness of faith is nothing new. Perhaps that is why I'm so good at substantiating my arguments with references--it was engrained in me by my church.
Sustaining an argument is doing just that, someone of almost any religion, cult, flat earther could do that but it always falls short of proof.
Evidence and convincing evidence are just that, that's why for supernatural beings (of any ilk) you always have to add faith.
So far as i can see the above statement is just a deceleration that faith in god is reasonable by assertion.
For the record John, I can agree that faith is trust, i don't have a problem with that at all.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'