RE: Question about "faith"
September 24, 2020 at 5:49 pm
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2020 at 5:51 pm by Belacqua.)
(September 24, 2020 at 9:31 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: When something is based on evidence and reason, I find that I need not exert any will to believe it.
It may be that in your case, reason and the emotions are in perfect alignment. This would make you very rare, I think.
As has been described several times on this thread, faith comes into play when the emotions differ from reason.
So for example, a person may know perfectly well that air travel is safe. Yet when the plane takes off, he has the urge to scream. Faith (in the plane) is an act of will which prevents the person from screaming, because despite the emotion at the moment, he knows through reason that it's safe.
A jealous husband may have suspicious thoughts every time his wife gets a phone call. Yet he knows through reason that he has no cause to doubt her. Faith (in the wife) is an act of will through which he suppresses his irrational jealousy and doesn't demand proof of her honesty at every moment.
You of course think that faith of this type is not warranted for God. But what we're talking about here is what faith consists of.
In people unlike you, whose reason and emotion are not in perfect alignment, faith is useful.
(September 24, 2020 at 10:06 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:(September 21, 2020 at 8:28 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: A great example of the atheist definition of faith lol.
faith, n., A firm, stoic, and sacred conviction which is both adopted and maintained independent of physical evidence or logical proof. (Aron Ra)
That certainly makes more sense than the way you define it.
Anybody who has faith in what Aron Ra has to say hasn't been paying attention.
https://historyforatheists.com/2020/07/a...nds-badly/
It looks as though some people dislike religion so much that they will put their faith in absolutely anyone who says bad things about it. This faith is frequently misplaced.