God so hated the world

[Greatest I am]

If you really believe this, then lets chat about the morality or immorality of Yahweh punishing the innocent instead of the guilty and calling that justice.

Christians always run from moral discussions, but I feel you need it badly, given you adoring a genocidal prick of a god and all.

On Jesus dying for Christians. Try to think in a moral way.
 
It takes quite an  inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.
 
Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.
 
It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.
 
To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.
 
Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.
 
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
 
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
 
Psa 49;7  None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
 
There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that.
 
Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk.

Regards
DL

You speak as if God is a human, and you stand in Judgement of His morality. What you fail to realize, and conceptualize is that God makes the rules! Not us. Everything has to be seen through that prism. Unfortunately for you, and many others, that is not possible. So we can't ever connect. Nor should we! We're too far apart.

To try to explain it in terms that you'd understand.... Revelation is achieved through three things: Inner peace, spiritual acceptance, and imagination. I won't explain this foundation further, as I've experienced with others like you, you are already formulating a negative attitude. And I don't like wasting my time. I'd much rather talk to an openminded individual. The only reason I'm engaging with you is that you seem to be the only intelligent being here today.

First off...lets put the "story of Job", to bed! That is a hypothetical story written in the 7th century or so, and is based in theodicy. No more. Not reality in any stretch of the imagination. Even in the epic proportions of the OT. It's in the bible, in my opinion to make people feel better about themselves and frightened of God!

So, let's think like God....shall we?

Gen 3:22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.


If God the Father shared in culpability by putting the tree in the garden, in front of Adam & Eve.... Thus the Lord accepting His part in revealing the ugly truth to them. As bad as Evil is, it’s still part of the Truth! 

And the last part of said scripture, (Gen 3:22) points to Jesus on the cross (tree) and His last supper pronouncement, “I am the Bread of Life”.

Also, Jesus is God in the flesh! Period.... "from the foundations of the world"! The Alpha & Omega. Transcending time, space and matter.

Did we (humans, through Adam & Eve) steal from God in the Garden? Was the Tree of Knowledge, God’s knowledge? Was God trying to protect us? 

It also seems obvious (to me) that ONLY God can reverse His curse on man of, sin and death; “but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in [the day] that you eat of it, you shall surely die.”  Notice, He didn't say "IF"? 

We had no way to redeem ourselves, or take back what we did. And we’ll sin again and again, and AGAIN! We can’t be PERFECT! We “know” too much! And we reject God, because of His..."morality".

No. the only way was to break His own curse by dying in the flesh Himself. An injustice that reconciled us to Him. He paid the price for putting
that tree of knowledge in front of us! By His death, the curse fell. Because, death was only meant for sinners. Now death is only a door!

Matthew 10:28
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Wow. Deflect much?
 
You speak as if Gods are not human, and you stand in judgement of them and the morality shown, by you is immoral, --- as you honor a genocidal prick. 

What you fail to realize, and conceptualize is that God makes the rules in the bible, but the bible is written by us, therefore, we create the gods and give them our morals, or lack thereof in Yahweh's case, and his vile followers.

If we are going to chat, use logos and not your really vile mythos unless you treat your myth as a myth.

The laws in heaven cannot apply on earth, so don't try to make them work.

Regards
DL