RE: Trump turning young people against the church
November 2, 2020 at 2:33 pm
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2020 at 2:46 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(November 2, 2020 at 2:12 pm)TaraJo Wrote:(November 2, 2020 at 2:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’d feel more optimistic if churches started turning young people away from Trump.
Boru
20 years from now, if those young people are less dogmatic than the previous generation, they'll be turning against the kind of thinking that empowered Trump. That's an improvement, isn't it?
These young people think they are too good to have to get dirty in doing good work. They can’t even bestir themselves to forestall the end of the world If the alternative is Not in their opinion quite milk and honey. They would be fickle and unreliable Constituents that talks loud and does little.
(November 2, 2020 at 2:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(November 2, 2020 at 2:12 pm)TaraJo Wrote: 20 years from now, if those young people are less dogmatic than the previous generation, they'll be turning against the kind of thinking that empowered Trump. That's an improvement, isn't it?
Absolutely it is. But I think it would be more of an improvement if churches could grow the fuck up and tell the younger members of their flocks, ‘This Trump guy? NOT what Jesus had in mind.’ That way, you’d still get more progressive young people, but you’d also get more progressive churches. Everybody wins.
Boru
The church didn’t get this influential by being progressive.
(November 2, 2020 at 2:28 pm)TaraJo Wrote:(November 2, 2020 at 2:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Absolutely it is. But I think it would be more of an improvement if churches could grow the fuck up and tell the younger members of their flocks, ‘This Trump guy? NOT what Jesus had in mind.’ That way, you’d still get more progressive young people, but you’d also get more progressive churches. Everybody wins.
Boru
True.
When it comes to politics, for decades "the church" cared about two things: abortion and gays. If you're against both, they're on your side. Now there's a third issue: muslims. If you hate muslims, "the church" loves you and your candidacy. Adultery, greed, narcissism, incompetence.... none of that matters to them as long as you hate abortion, gays and muslims.
The church didn’t really care at all about abortion and gays. What it cared about is issues that can bind the votes of the feeble minded more closely to It’s own enrichment and aggrandizement. That abortion and gays qualified was purely contingent.