RE: Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?
January 26, 2021 at 12:10 pm
(This post was last modified: January 26, 2021 at 12:20 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 26, 2021 at 12:03 pm)Greatest I am Wrote:IDK. It seems our instincts would be set at the biological level for whatever was best for our population, not the individual. Self destructive individuality is a successful survival strategy for populations. We know them as sentries, warriors, martyrs, or heroes.(January 26, 2021 at 11:51 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
What would be the issue with that, and wouldn't changing our moral proclamations to accord with more and/or better information over time be a good thing?
The issue I would have with that, is that our instincts are set for our best possible end by nature. To change them is to try to second guess nature.
Quote:We are natural animals. What change to our instincts would you suggest, given that they are set for our best end?
I appreciate your generalized thinking, but let's get specific.
Regards
DL
As before - suppose we were second guessing nature, and we do that alot with our moral intuition. Is that a problem, why?
It's natural to preach inequality for women and for gays, a not so small amount of bigotry appears to be instinctual. Do you take moral issue with that?
I'll toss in one from my own pov for you, see what you think. Gravity is a natural fact. It informs every bit of our perceptions about the world around us. It is not, however, on account of any fact of gravity, that pushing someone over a cliff is wrong. If we arranged for a stuntman to fall into a giant pillow - or if the entire cliff were an illusion - or if we were super advanced aliens with anti grav just fucking with a moral agent-as-subject in an experiment - none of these other facts would change our appraisal of the subjects actions in pushing our stooge off the cliff.
So, by all means, let's use some natural facts and possibly even instincts to inform us that we're looking at an item of moral import - that can be the first word, but I don't see the value or accuracy in it being the last word.
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