RE: Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?
January 27, 2021 at 6:31 pm
(This post was last modified: January 27, 2021 at 6:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 27, 2021 at 6:12 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: I define nature as mostly good, but in our dualistic universe, I have to look for it's other side of that coin as well. Like our evolution, it is mostly good with a touch of evil. I doubt that either of us would want to rid the world of either side.That wasn't the impression I got before, but it's a necessary bit of data to understand what you mean, for sure.
Quote:As to your self referentially false statement, I do not see the sense in your reason for naming it so.I gave you the specific examples of both the types of claims you were objecting to, and your own objection to those claims, and explained their equivalence, and explained what a self referentially false statement was twice. I doubt the third time will be the charm.
I would think the reverse true.
Why would a true fact annul a true moral state?
Give a specific example. You know we get nowhere when you go too generic.
With revisions, though, we've finally achieved the point of even having asked you. You don't actually think that nature has determined what's best for us or that we can't second guess nature or that a thing being natural is the same as a thing being good.
You think that some of the natural things that some of us do are bad, and that nature cannot be relied upon to determine what is best for us in those cases. That you have a moral issue with nature in at least as many instances as there are bad ideas in humans.
Do we have that correct now, or closer to correct?
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