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Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?
RE: Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?
(January 28, 2021 at 12:17 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Moral import does not apply to the religious. What their gods wants, moral or not, they will give.
It very much does.  Confusing a claim of divinity with the central religious claim of that divinity's faith would be a mistake.  It's the difference between "god exists", and "god saves".  Even more broadly, there's no requirement of the one for the other.  Any moral assertion about the sacred, however the sacred is defined or described, is a religious assertion by nature, and the only difference between them at this level is the number of people who hold it.  It takes more than a single person for a thematically religious assertion to be onsidered a religion in practice.  Or, as the christians like to say, anywhere where two or three gather.

Quote:That is how we got homophobia and misogyny.
Absolutely not.  Religions may service homophobia and misogny, they don't create it - and the worlds contemporary religions couldn't have created those things even if some religion did.  They're all babies.  Axial faith is to religious belief what a newborn is to a parent if we counted years by the thousands.        

Quote:Have you ever tried to engage Christians in moral discussions? Nearly impossible that. They know they have no decent moral tenets to follow nor can they justify Yahweh's.
All the time.   I think that axial faith has flooded the zone with shit, and that doesn't effect the faithful alone.  If it did, we might not have as strong a reservation against some of it as we do.

Quote:Errors from the religious, stems from their initial premise and lie that their god is real.

The delusion must end before the moral cowards will judge their vile gods justly.

Regards
DL
I think that you might find that to be a misperception on your part, at least with respect t the vast majority of religious people...and insomuch as you hold it, it may be down to the religious miscommunicating their own positions.  That's been my experience, from alot of discussions with religious people.  Atheists, evangelicals, pagans, gnostic christans.....
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RE: Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country? - by The Grand Nudger - January 28, 2021 at 12:40 pm

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