(February 16, 2021 at 4:56 pm)Astreja Wrote: Again, please consider that whatever convinced you may simply not be enough for someone like me.
This is the theme of the day. Thank you.
(February 13, 2021 at 11:01 am)Klorophyll Wrote: What's more, I am not sure you're thinking about this the right way. The truth of a religious cult and the existence of God are really two different things. You say you discovered that your former religion is simply false, now it's a stretch to reject to existence of any deity outright, which seems to be your position currently.
That's another horrendous insult to every religious person around the world. There is no shortage of religious people who lived fullfilling emotional lives and had highly successful careers in something. Religion, after all,concerns itself with metaphysical issues, for which it's irrelevant whether you "know youself" pretty well or not. Nobody can rule out the existence of the tiniest conception of any deity so far. And very sophisticated people were induced by fear, not religion, to believe in some deity. Maybe religion actually does them a favor and tells them that the God who reveals himself through their respective scriptures won't punish anyone for not getting the right answer, as long as they are honest. So, fear has no role to play here whatsoever, for those who understand the content of their reliigon, at least.
So, take a deep breath, you're just throwing insults to believers, left and right.
I'll repeat it again: the existence of what you refer to as "invisbile entity", and the truth value of your former religious cult, are two separate issues. It's common to read about people who revolt against God simply because their particular religion, among other beliefs, turned out to be false.
Such a being is actually just enough not to punish you for being a victim of a manipulative lie, that's why you might go to heaven, not because you chose to stick to a lie. And, you know, it's quite arrogant to think your position is more virtuous than God's.
I wish, in a conversation about my personal experience you had chosen to ask me questions instead of telling me what you think I feel or what I have done. You've made assumptions about the cult I was a believer of that were incorrect, you've pushed this narrative that I did no exploring at all after my own religion was proven false, when in fact, I did, and you've used my vulnerability as an opportunity to bully me and try to sell me on the idea of "you don't have good, rational, honest reasons for not believing in a god. Any god is better than none, even if it is wrong. Except the trinity. That just don't make sense."
Which, considering that last point and your flimsy stance on honesty, isn't all that surprising.