RE: Imagine this...
May 6, 2021 at 10:41 am
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2021 at 10:42 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 5, 2021 at 9:53 am)Drich Wrote:Words, that's who.(May 4, 2021 at 3:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Which of the historical jesi do you believe in?says who?
None of them worked any miracles.
They're looking for a man - not a god. The term exclusively refers to a man - not a god. Historical jesus, not legendary jesus or mythical christ.
Quote:Jesus of the gospels is legendary, christ is mythical. Luke wasn't a historian of any kind.Quote: Only one of them can be The Guy.jesus of the gospels. remember luke was a secular historian till he was conscripted. so the book of luke is technically a secular account. he was not chosen by jesus and technically not a disciple of christ but a student of paul. (which is why we know the book of luke was written first and closer to the time of christ than most believe.
Quote:Christ is both mythical and composite - ergo not even a candidate for any historical jesus.Quote:If jesus was a composite character, he's not historical, you see.didn't say he was composit.. the other secular historians obviously have a varying degree of understanding of christ and simply wrote what THEY PERSONALLY understood to be true. Christ was a large and complex person and ad many facets to him. it is not surprising that a common man 2000 years ago did not see the big picture spelled out in the bible. how could they it took several apostoles to compile what we know of christ. and to expect a man 2000 years ago who primary qualification is he could read and write to understand the nature of god with out god holding his hand (like he did with luke/which seemingly invalidates his secular status automatically) what we have is the best a finite mind could produce depending on how close a given historian was to jesus
Quote:Exactly. You do not believe that any historical jesus existed. You believe in a mythical christ to the exclusion of any contrapositive claim about a historic man. That's why none of their research buttresses your superstitions. None of those guys, is your guy. You're looking for a god - they're talking about a man.Quote: Every single historical jesus candidate would be, if any of them existed, the single best argument against the religion of christianity that could be offered. Some random jew who bitched about the world as it was and died, achieving nothing.all in.
You sure you don't throw your chips in with some mythical christ, instead? Remember, big guys listening.
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