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Nobody wants to work anymore
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RE: Nobody wants to work anymore
(October 29, 2021 at 10:25 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(October 29, 2021 at 10:17 am)Ten Wrote: Sorry to bump this but I'm hearing more and more about this and getting won over by an empathy for the working class the more stuff I hear about it. I watched this video by Chapo Trap House on an article by the Federalist condemning the raising worker wages and resulting price hike of products at Chipotle. I think their commentary is pretty spot on, not only with the false impression that service industry jobs are "entry level" (since when? They haven't been that in a long fucking time. What other jobs are adults with families supposed to have then?) But also that the price of products going up right now is the fault of workers needing more pay. There's this whole thing with the shipping containers that everyone got on Buttigieg's case about for his taking time off and all, yet the price of goods going up is because businesses have to pay employees more? Right.

I see a couple sides to this. Workers don't want to sell their life on the cheap any more...and the pandemic brought into clear view what would happen when the 'nobodies' most people don't think twice about while they buy their groceries or pick up their to-go order are fed up.

The other thing is that I think, in some cases, the 'no one wants to work thing' is an excuse for just about everything from 'we are crap to work for' to 'supply chain problems'.

Blame it on the people you prefer to pretend don't exist or who are getting what they deserve - which is the high hard one.

Yes, absolutely. Another thing that the Chapo guys brought up was the framing of this "we won't go back to work for you until you give us better wages" as "bribery" by the author of the piece. They read through it and that's a quote. Not wanting to work for shit pay is bribery, holding your labor for ransom as a nefarious deed. That's what's winning me over to the workers side to be honest. I think in one Fox news segment a few months ago, they framed this as a "hungry dogs" scenario. Like, the workers just aren't starving enough to want it that badly and somehow this is a moral failing on the part of the laborers, their values are wrong.

(October 29, 2021 at 10:35 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The theory was that uncle sam was overpaying benefits and the lazy poors decided to stay home. So, if you removed that assistance..like every good wingnut politician did, and that theory was correct..we'd have seen a surge in employment.

We did not. They were being assholes for no reason beyond it's impact on their polling numbers...the derps in the rank and file just gobbled that fact free shit right up....even though it was always talking about them as a demographic, and they knew better. Nearly a half a million people wee just forcibly removed from the workforce, apparently plenty more would rather die (of covid) than work at a place that insist it;s employees not get covid..so there another expected rush of resignations. It just so happened that the olds were holding alot of the employment (because they could never afford to retire) and now..the survivors know they can make upward moves. No one wants to work at someones covid farm, and no one has to. Every staffing firm is scrambling - and they're dealing with all of these employment issues too.... It's fun to observe from that side of the curtain.

In mere reality, americans have consistently worked more hours and become more productive than their peers and over time with respect to our own past work habits. All while being payed relatively less for that effort, and without the safety nets of just about every other modern nation. This very real set of circumstances feeds into the magats notions of replacement...you know, "economic anxiety". They're right that they're getting shafted, but it isn't by dems or the filthy fucks who make their garbage burger. So we end up with this nuerotic little dance where one poor taker pretends the other poor takers are the problem because their betters..who loathe them, say so.

That is very true. It was bad before Covid, the whole "calling out sick" reward-punishment response a lot of businesses have, resulting in not only myself but many coworkers over the years just coming in with an obvious cold, vomiting on breaks, etc. because they either can't afford to call off or they're not deemed sick enough to stay home. And with Covid, it's worse because half the time, whether they make you wear masks, social distance, and wipe down your register between customers, they do the bare minimum and superficially give it credence.

I'm reading the Conquest of Bread right now, so, trying to get educated on this stuff. But yeah, it's starting to click for me, personally, that I've been expendable and just accepted it all this time without realizing it's not actually better for everyone this way.

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Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - May 9, 2021 at 9:02 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by AkiraTheViking - May 9, 2021 at 11:27 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by AkiraTheViking - May 10, 2021 at 12:05 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Drich - May 11, 2021 at 10:50 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 11, 2021 at 12:56 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Drich - May 11, 2021 at 1:25 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by brewer - May 10, 2021 at 7:23 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 10, 2021 at 11:30 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Mister Agenda - May 10, 2021 at 11:33 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 10, 2021 at 11:40 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Fake Messiah - May 10, 2021 at 3:16 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by LadyForCamus - May 10, 2021 at 12:33 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 10, 2021 at 6:58 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by LadyForCamus - May 10, 2021 at 1:24 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by popeyespappy - May 10, 2021 at 2:31 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by popeyespappy - May 10, 2021 at 3:47 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by arewethereyet - May 10, 2021 at 3:09 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 10, 2021 at 7:47 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by popeyespappy - May 10, 2021 at 8:21 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Divinity - May 10, 2021 at 8:19 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 11, 2021 at 5:18 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Belacqua - May 11, 2021 at 5:54 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 11, 2021 at 8:14 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Divinity - May 11, 2021 at 11:11 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Drich - May 11, 2021 at 2:13 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - May 10, 2021 at 9:01 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by brewer - May 10, 2021 at 9:29 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 10, 2021 at 9:29 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 8:27 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 11, 2021 at 8:33 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Mister Agenda - May 11, 2021 at 10:45 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 8:38 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 11, 2021 at 8:43 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 8:47 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 11, 2021 at 9:52 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 10:22 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 12:51 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by arewethereyet - May 11, 2021 at 1:28 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 11, 2021 at 2:14 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by arewethereyet - May 11, 2021 at 2:14 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 11, 2021 at 2:18 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by arewethereyet - May 11, 2021 at 2:23 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Drich - May 11, 2021 at 2:21 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Drich - May 11, 2021 at 3:56 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by arewethereyet - May 11, 2021 at 4:02 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 1:47 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 11, 2021 at 2:26 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by arewethereyet - May 11, 2021 at 2:29 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by onlinebiker - May 11, 2021 at 2:32 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by arewethereyet - May 11, 2021 at 2:38 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Crossless2.0 - May 11, 2021 at 2:48 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - May 11, 2021 at 4:01 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - May 11, 2021 at 10:10 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by GUBU - May 19, 2021 at 8:59 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2021 at 12:34 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Drich - May 12, 2021 at 2:34 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by no one - May 12, 2021 at 1:03 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2021 at 1:08 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2021 at 2:37 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Belacqua - May 13, 2021 at 6:38 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by no one - May 13, 2021 at 9:02 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Cecelia - May 13, 2021 at 11:12 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - May 14, 2021 at 1:33 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - May 15, 2021 at 10:14 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Fireball - May 18, 2021 at 8:55 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Angrboda - May 18, 2021 at 1:59 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - May 24, 2021 at 9:03 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - May 26, 2021 at 10:48 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Brian37 - May 27, 2021 at 7:19 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by GUBU - May 28, 2021 at 1:39 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - May 27, 2021 at 7:59 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by arewethereyet - May 27, 2021 at 10:48 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Jackalope - May 27, 2021 at 11:20 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Ravenshire - May 28, 2021 at 7:40 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by no one - May 27, 2021 at 8:33 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Angrboda - May 27, 2021 at 9:14 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - June 10, 2021 at 11:46 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - June 11, 2021 at 1:55 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Foxaèr - June 13, 2021 at 10:20 pm
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 14, 2021 at 4:17 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by vulcanlogician - June 14, 2021 at 4:22 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by zwanzig - October 29, 2021 at 10:17 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by arewethereyet - October 29, 2021 at 10:25 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2021 at 10:35 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by zwanzig - October 29, 2021 at 11:00 am
RE: Nobody wants to work anymore - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2021 at 11:18 am

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