(June 17, 2021 at 3:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(June 17, 2021 at 2:57 pm)Drich Wrote: you do not have the authority or even a dictionary entry that supports your identification of what sin is. you are speaking only from a deeply held atheist belief concerning your personal definition of sin. that sport is not something you get to administrate over.
ah.. no.. not once ever have i used the rc version of the definition of sin. this is where you fail again. trying to push all expressions of christianity under one denominations rules or system of belief. that is like saying all asian people are chinese no matter ethnicity or country of origins.
but you can rid the world of a category of willful and practiced behavior. (terrorism is one such category or classification, sin being another) or at least one can wish for such a thing. that's all sin is. it is a category of behavior identified as being outside the will of parameters of the church which are ultimatly set by God.. and before you waste your time repeating yourself, take a moment and think before you speak. think of the definition provided. sin is a category or classification of behavior. meaning by this definition God... does not have to be real... only the behavior identified as sin, AND the religion providing the category or classification has to be real as well. so whether you believe in god or not your argument is moot because sin is not God. sin is behavior the religion finds objectionable or evil and the maintains the standard.. so all one needs for the classification of sin to exist is a religion to create and enforce the list, and the list itself. not sin is not apart of the lexicon it is also apart of the culture who practices said religion.
So, you would outlaw blasphemous speech, which most religions find objectionable?
In any case, religions are hardly the arbiters of moral behaviour.
Boru
again all that is needed for sin to be a compilation of condemned behavior is a socially accepted organisation. and to have that organization back those deeds as being unacceptable behavior.
good or bad is irrelevant. the differences between islam and christianity is a good example of that. one says x is a sin and the other says x is ok.. either way x is still a sin for those who see it as such.
for me and many christians. sin is the the measure of morality many non believers think it is. even jesus when he walked and preached many thought him sinful as he hung out with known sinners/dregs. for many jews this to them was also a sin because of how they understood the law. So i say again for those who see sin or the law as a measure of personal 'morality'/righteousness. do not understand the basics of christianity.
Christ did not destroy the law. he simply made is secondary to the new measure of righteousness/the measure of worthiness of heaven.
So when you ask would i make blaspheme a law/crime. I'd say for those who think it is, then it already is a crime/sin. for those who think it not, it isn't. out of respect and love for those who think it is i will hold my tongue and for the rest.. If i think it grounds me or make me credible to have a free vocabulary then i'll use whatever words i see fit.