(June 17, 2021 at 12:23 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Ticks, chiggers and mosquitos.

Appliances that beep.

Middle management.

Multitasking on the job. I've always hated the idea that it saves money to have one person juggle tasks when short staffed. The giant corporations who pull this shit, don't understand that there is a hidden cost to doing this. If you frustrate the shit out of your employee, they give up and quit faster. That means you spend more money long term training new people. High turnover rates hurt profits more than the big guys want to face.

People who think colourizing B&W films is a good thing.

Boru

(June 17, 2021 at 12:28 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Mornings.

You need to get a round bed.

(June 17, 2021 at 12:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Multitasking on the job. I've always hated the idea that it saves money to have one person juggle tasks when short staffed. The giant corporations who pull this shit, don't understand that there is a hidden cost to doing this. If you frustrate the shit out of your employee, they give up and quit faster. That means you spend more money long term training new people. High turnover rates hurt profits more than the big guys want to face.

Agree.  Keeping focus on the task at hand is more efficient than whatever multitasking is supposed to mean.

(June 17, 2021 at 11:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 17, 2021 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: so you don't want to live in a world without:
murder
sex trafficking 
stealing
lies
among dozens upon dozens of other listed sins?

or do you not understand a sin is not a thing, but rather a category of bad/evil behavior. and if you are not in a position to identify it as such, then it simply shows the 'limits' of your cognitive ability. (meaning if you want to pretend or truly believe sin is not a category of forbidden or evil behavior much like the word crime. then you do so out of social conditioning/indoctrination.) because imagine if i said there is no such thing as crime and you read from a list of crim, yet i persist that crime is not real/spoke around the subject miscatorgrised as a noun much like you did here with the word sin...

your ignorance here with sin is the same level of ignorance i would have to expend to pretend there is no crime. it simple identified the person pretending as a indoctrinated sheep.

The things you list are crimes or ethical shortcomings, not sins.

you do not have the authority or even a dictionary entry that supports your identification of what sin is. you are speaking only from a deeply held atheist belief concerning your personal definition of sin. that sport is not something you get to administrate over.

Quote:As you and your ilk are so fond of telling us, a sin is a transgression of divine law. Since divine law exists only as a fantasy in the minds of weak-brained people, sin is a non-concept.

ah.. no.. not once ever have i used the rc version of the definition of sin. this is where you fail again. trying to push all expressions of christianity under one denominations rules or system of belief. that is like saying all asian people are chinese no matter ethnicity or country of origins.

Quote:You can’t rid the world of something that doesn’t exist.

Boru

but you can rid the world of a category of willful and practiced behavior. (terrorism is one such category or classification, sin being another) or at least one can wish for such a thing. that's all sin is. it is a category of behavior identified as being outside the will of parameters of the church which are ultimatly set by God.. and before you waste your time repeating yourself, take a moment and think before you speak. think of the definition provided. sin is a category or classification of behavior. meaning by this definition God... does not have to be real... only the behavior identified as sin, AND the religion providing the category or classification has to be real as well. so whether you believe in god or not your argument is moot because sin is not God. sin is behavior the religion finds objectionable or evil and the maintains the standard.. so all one needs for the classification of sin to exist is a religion to create and enforce the list, and the list itself. not sin is not apart of the lexicon it is also apart of the culture who practices said religion.

(June 17, 2021 at 2:57 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 17, 2021 at 11:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The things you list are crimes or ethical shortcomings, not sins.

 you do not have the authority or even a dictionary entry that supports your identification of what sin is. you are speaking only from a deeply held atheist belief concerning your personal definition of sin. that sport is not something you get to administrate over.

Quote:As you and your ilk are so fond of telling us, a sin is a transgression of divine law. Since divine law exists only as a fantasy in the minds of weak-brained people, sin is a non-concept.

ah.. no.. not once ever have i used the rc version of the definition of sin. this is where you fail again. trying to push all expressions of christianity under one denominations rules or system of belief. that is like saying all asian people are chinese no matter ethnicity or country of origins.

Quote:You can’t rid the world of something that doesn’t exist.

Boru

but you can rid the world of a category of willful and practiced behavior. (terrorism is one such category or classification, sin being another) or at least one can wish for such a thing. that's all sin is. it is a category of behavior identified as being outside the will of parameters of the church which are ultimatly set by God.. and before you waste your time repeating yourself, take a moment and think before you speak. think of the definition provided. sin is a category or classification of behavior. meaning by this definition God... does not have to be real... only the behavior identified as sin, AND the religion providing the category or classification has to be real as well. so whether you believe in god or not your argument is moot because sin is not God. sin is behavior the  religion finds objectionable or evil and the maintains the standard.. so all one needs for the classification of sin to exist is a religion to create and enforce the list, and the list itself. not sin is not apart of the lexicon it is also apart of the culture who practices said religion.

So, you would outlaw blasphemous speech, which most religions find objectionable?

In any case, religions are hardly the arbiters of moral behaviour.


Boru

(June 17, 2021 at 3:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 17, 2021 at 2:57 pm)Drich Wrote:  you do not have the authority or even a dictionary entry that supports your identification of what sin is. you are speaking only from a deeply held atheist belief concerning your personal definition of sin. that sport is not something you get to administrate over.

ah.. no.. not once ever have i used the rc version of the definition of sin. this is where you fail again. trying to push all expressions of christianity under one denominations rules or system of belief. that is like saying all asian people are chinese no matter ethnicity or country of origins.

but you can rid the world of a category of willful and practiced behavior. (terrorism is one such category or classification, sin being another) or at least one can wish for such a thing. that's all sin is. it is a category of behavior identified as being outside the will of parameters of the church which are ultimatly set by God.. and before you waste your time repeating yourself, take a moment and think before you speak. think of the definition provided. sin is a category or classification of behavior. meaning by this definition God... does not have to be real... only the behavior identified as sin, AND the religion providing the category or classification has to be real as well. so whether you believe in god or not your argument is moot because sin is not God. sin is behavior the  religion finds objectionable or evil and the maintains the standard.. so all one needs for the classification of sin to exist is a religion to create and enforce the list, and the list itself. not sin is not apart of the lexicon it is also apart of the culture who practices said religion.

So, you would outlaw blasphemous speech, which most religions find objectionable?

In any case, religions are hardly the arbiters of moral behaviour.


Boru

again all that is needed for sin to be a compilation of condemned behavior is a socially accepted organisation. and to have that organization back those deeds as being unacceptable behavior. 

good or bad is irrelevant. the differences between islam and christianity is a good example of that. one says x is a sin and the other says x is ok.. either way x is still a sin for those who see it as such.

for me and many christians. sin is the the measure of morality many non believers think it is. even jesus when he walked and preached many thought him sinful as he hung out with known sinners/dregs.  for many jews this to them was also a sin because of how they understood the law. So i say again for those who see sin or the law as a measure of personal 'morality'/righteousness. do not understand the basics of christianity. 

Christ did not destroy the law. he simply made is secondary to the new measure of righteousness/the measure of worthiness of heaven. 

So when you ask would i make blaspheme a law/crime. I'd say for those who think it is, then it already is a crime/sin. for those who think it not, it isn't. out of respect and love for those who think it is i will hold my tongue and for the rest.. If i think it grounds me or make me credible to have a free vocabulary then i'll use whatever words i see fit.

Too bad you need help with any word that has more than 1 syllable.

(June 17, 2021 at 1:43 pm)Ranjr Wrote:

(June 17, 2021 at 12:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Multitasking on the job. I've always hated the idea that it saves money to have one person juggle tasks when short staffed. The giant corporations who pull this shit, don't understand that there is a hidden cost to doing this. If you frustrate the shit out of your employee, they give up and quit faster. That means you spend more money long term training new people. High turnover rates hurt profits more than the big guys want to face.

Agree.  Keeping focus on the task at hand is more efficient than whatever multitasking is supposed to mean.

After a career of multitasking, it's nice to mostly be able to do one task at a time then move on to the next.  I can still switch gears when I need to, luckily I don't have to very often.  

It makes bookkeeping a lot easier since I am not pulled away and then have to remember where I left of.  

My biggest "hate" in working in an office environment is gone now.  The only phone call I get is from the boss and that happens sometimes once a month.  So much nicer than having to stop every few minutes to work through a call from a vendor, an employee, or anyone who wasn't sure who to talk with but knew that the accounting department was probably there to take a call.

Asshats.