(August 9, 2021 at 10:20 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(August 9, 2021 at 3:59 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: All this is a direct consequence of atheism. That's what an atheistic worldview provides us with: nothing, nihilism. Absent a God, there obviously cannot be an objective reason to live for or something worthwhile to pursue. Being aware of finite existence and disbelieving in God at the same time is not a tenable position for any human being.
It appears to be a perfectly tenable position for a great many people, just not all
of us.
Quote:I don't think even atheists hold this postion rigorously, some will try and defend some rudimentary form of afterlife that doesn't require God.
How ambitious that you think you understand the private thoughts and beliefs of every atheist better than they do.
Broken clocks and blind squirrels aside, Special K raises a long-standing and well documented aspect of modern athiesm: its attempt to avoid the seeming inescapable conclusion that life is meaningless. The most notable example I can think of is Nietzsche who attempted to redeem his nihilism with the jui-jitzo move of by embracing nihilism. You can see the same instinctive recoil from nihilism in Schopenhauer too but I havent read him in a long time.
It is not uncommon for some adamant atheist to assert that belief in god is delusional and personally I find that assertion both untrue and uncharitable. At the same time, I realize that my position, that atheism is ultimately nihilistic, to be offensive to atheists who maintain that they can still have a world filled with meaning and value sans god, so I leave open the possiblity that meaning and value are still possible in a godless world even though no thinker seems to have figured it out yet.
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