(January 19, 2022 at 12:25 pm)Spongebob Wrote:(January 18, 2022 at 6:49 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Believe it or not, I'm one of the leftists here that's most likely to call out the legit excesses of the left. It might not seem like it to IA, but that's mostly because I have a far higher standard of what constitutes real Political Correctness Gone Mad than he does. And as frustrating as the more jackasstic parts of the left can be, I know better than to ally myself with groups that are, if not full-blown Nazis, a link or two away from them.
And, however much I dislike the excesses of identity politics or wokeness, their hopes for the world are almost certainly a Hell of a lot better than that.
I also identify as a more reasonable representative of Leftist policies, but you can't really have a conversation about that with anyone on the right anymore because they equate anything left of Ronald Reagan to Stalin. I used to lean conservative, but slowly migrated to become more a centrist and the right just continued to move farther and farther right until I found myself solidly on the left. The true politics of cancel culture and woke are complex and there is no written statement of what constitutes either. Its a mob mentality and that's probably the most dangerous aspect of both. Calling out people for doing evil things is good, hard stop. Where the confusion comes in is how people define "evil things".
(January 18, 2022 at 9:19 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: To the OP: if segregating children by race during instruction about privilege is not teaching CRT; then, having school children recite the Lord's Prayer is not teaching Christianity, either. In other words, teaching concepts derived from a dogma, is basically teaching the dogma indirectly. Personally, I find all forms of race essensialism morally repugnant and find advocacy of CRT below contempt.
Since you addressed this to the OP, I have to ask. What are you talking about? This isn't what my OP addresses. Who is segregating children and then teaching them about privilege (white, I presume)? Please explain in more detail.
This was all covered on Bill Maher's show with guest Megyn Kelly. 8 year olds were divided up into oppressed and oppressor. 8 year old white kids being called oppressors is pretty fucked and wrong. Toddlers being told to write letters to the Indians baseball team about why they should change their mascot? What kind of nonsense is that to make a toddler do? Can they even read yet?
https://www.newsweek.com/bill-maher-defe...ed-1646689
Now see, I understand that CRT is only taught in universities, and this seems to be the only response you hear from people on the left, is arguing over semantics. That's fine. CRT is not taught in elementary school or highshool. But what is being taught to children, is still pretty messed up, and obviously us whites are not going to be thrilled about our 8 year olds being called oppressors by their teachers. Teach history like you said you wanted to do. This goes beyond that. This is just making children feel bad for being white and beautiful.