RE: That pro white thread.
April 21, 2022 at 3:26 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2022 at 3:27 am by Rev. Rye.)
I actually agree with a lot of what you’re saying here for once.
The good:
1) White people have done a lot of horrible shit.
2) Framing issues of race in such a Manichæan way with one race being “the good guys” and the other being “the bad guys” is reductive.
3) There’s nothing inherently wrong with any race (with the exception of the human race.)
4) Power can corrupt people. It’s probably in the nature of power.
5) There’s a big problem of left-wing activism that can get blind to optics and can easily backfire. It’s been demonstrated how people laughing at SJWs tends to lead to far-right radicalisation
Bad:
1) While it’s technically accurate that “white majority” countries tend to have do good on things like gay rights, social safety nets, and human rights in general, phrasing it like that is misleading: there’s no correlation between whiteness and those good things. Hell, Russia’s proving itself to be a great counter example.
2) While judging people on the content of their character is good, and I honestly long for the day when we no longer feel the need to judge people by the colour of their skins (race as we understand it is essentially a bullshit concept created to excuse enslaving entire groups of people), the sad thing is we’re not even close to reaching that point. Maybe when we all don’t have to deal with “the situation they are currently in,” but the fact is we do. Because all that, there’s only two ways of understanding it: is it the result we should expect of centuries of oppression, or is it that they’re just lazy and bad and all kinds of shit like that? And I cannot for the life of me find a way of actually fixing those problems while only judging the colour of their skins. This is where there is some utility in the racial narratives. White people have done a lot of horrible shit to people of other races, but it doesn’t have to be that way. If we want anything done, we need to learn from our mistakes and be better than that.
The good:
1) White people have done a lot of horrible shit.
2) Framing issues of race in such a Manichæan way with one race being “the good guys” and the other being “the bad guys” is reductive.
3) There’s nothing inherently wrong with any race (with the exception of the human race.)
4) Power can corrupt people. It’s probably in the nature of power.
5) There’s a big problem of left-wing activism that can get blind to optics and can easily backfire. It’s been demonstrated how people laughing at SJWs tends to lead to far-right radicalisation
Bad:
1) While it’s technically accurate that “white majority” countries tend to have do good on things like gay rights, social safety nets, and human rights in general, phrasing it like that is misleading: there’s no correlation between whiteness and those good things. Hell, Russia’s proving itself to be a great counter example.
2) While judging people on the content of their character is good, and I honestly long for the day when we no longer feel the need to judge people by the colour of their skins (race as we understand it is essentially a bullshit concept created to excuse enslaving entire groups of people), the sad thing is we’re not even close to reaching that point. Maybe when we all don’t have to deal with “the situation they are currently in,” but the fact is we do. Because all that, there’s only two ways of understanding it: is it the result we should expect of centuries of oppression, or is it that they’re just lazy and bad and all kinds of shit like that? And I cannot for the life of me find a way of actually fixing those problems while only judging the colour of their skins. This is where there is some utility in the racial narratives. White people have done a lot of horrible shit to people of other races, but it doesn’t have to be that way. If we want anything done, we need to learn from our mistakes and be better than that.
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.