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Leaked Supreme Court Decision signals majority set to overturn Roe v. Wade
RE: Leaked Supreme Court Decision signals majority set to overturn Roe v. Wade
(May 9, 2022 at 4:49 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(May 9, 2022 at 1:06 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Codifying Roe v. Wade would have been milked for all it was worth to maximize GQP turnout. It's not about who has the majority in the polls, it's about who shows up at the polls. I didn't believe we'd elect someone like Trump right after we elected someone like Obama; but the GQP was more motivated to turn out that year. Abortion hasn't been an effective rallying cry for Democrats because everyone thought abortion rights were protected by the courts.

The GQP has used abortion as a rallying cry for nearly 50 years that has been tremendously effective at getting them money and votes. Getting abortion rights gutted before the midterms actually makes it a MEANINGFUL rallying cry for Democrats, as well as Independents who don't favor abortion bans. If the GQP doesn't pay a price for this ruling, THAT will be a major failure on the part of Democrats.

The fact that you didn't anticipate a guy like Trump after Obama shows you don't understand the problem with the Democratic Party as it exists today. Trump's election was a direct result of Obama's ultra-moderate agenda and lack of any genuine "change" that he promised on the campaign trail. Hillary Clinton was seen as an extension of the ultra-moderate agenda people took issue with, and so voters (stupidly) thought electing an "outsider" like Trump would result in real change - of course in America we have no inkling of class consciousness, so electing a billionaire was not at all electing an outsider, but whatever. I don't know where this idea of Americans preferring moderate policies comes from. It's just not true. People want legitimate change and most voters do not have strong favorable opinions of either parties, but rather see one party as better than the other.

And the same thing that happened in 2016 will happen now, with abortion rights, as people correctly point out that the Democrats have not attempted to do anything about it.

I knew a Republican would likely get the White House in 2016 after a two-term Democrat, I just thought Trump was too extreme and clownish to get the win, but a lot of small factors (plus the one big factor Republicans galvanized to turn out after 8 years of Obama) aligned to get him in office despite his opponent geting millions more votes than he did. It could easily have gone the other way, that was one of the things that was so frustrating about it. The only thing the Democrats dropped the ball on was some of them (like me) thinking there was no way an asshat clown like Trump could beat Clinton and voting for alternate candidates (one of the small factors that aligned in Trump's favor).

I don't know why so many people can't seem to absorb the fact that the majority of Democrats are moderates. The same thing happened in 2020, many progressives were sure a moderate like Biden couldn't win the primaries, let alone the presidency. I know the feeling, when I was a Libertarian I really thought Ron Paul had a shot in 2012, but I was in a bubble with too many Libertarians in it.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Leaked Supreme Court Decision signals majority set to overturn Roe v. Wade - by Mister Agenda - May 10, 2022 at 10:26 am

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