(April 19, 2011 at 10:14 am)Ace Otana Wrote:(April 18, 2011 at 8:58 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: What I mean by that is that there is a very large population of people here (and a good few with guns). I don't mean to suggest that an individual person can resist the combined might of a government... I mean that the people have a viable option to revolt should it come to that.
I would presume most of the police would flip during an actual revolt, and politicians might as well be shot for how much they could accomplish
It is a very hypothetical situation. It's all based on the 'what if' question.
So you think thousands of armed individuals marching up to the White House won't lead to a blood bath?
I think a marching army is a turkey shoot.
Quote:Plus, armed civilians aren't much against a professional army.
Chock full of people that joined the army for the cause of country and family? I believe america's army would largely desert to the opposition.
Quote:Guns don't do much to tanks and such. Let's just say, in this hypothetical situation that through lack of thought and wisdom, you lot decided to arm up and march. How long do you think you'd last against the military? Honestly?
Some guns do deal a great bit of damage to tanks. If muslims can make improvised explosive devises to seriously damage tanks, surely we can use our completely functional construction explosives (I know several places to get those around here) to similar effect (likely greater).
Sofar as marching (moronic as hell), I deem it quite likely that the american soldiers on a whole do not have the stomach to fire on many of their own people after very long at all. The army's purpose is purportedly to protect these people, and it is failing to do so if it is killing them. Hence, although a death toll of a moronic action might be high, it is likely to cause the professional army to crumble as surely as shooting them.
Now if we're talking send a sea of protesters that couldn't be armed at the white house whilst the active revolt occurs under a rational design... then I entirely agree with sending these people to 'march' on the white house.
Quote:Like peasants armed with pitch forks going up against castles with knights in armour inside.
Depends on how many peasants you have vs the knights. Don't pretend it is easy to fight an extended battle in metal armor with a great metal sword/shield. A pitchfork is a deadly stabbing weapon, but it is the hammer and daggers which such armor should fear, as force weapons and maneuverable piercing weapons can easily get by that armor with the far superior speed of the armorless.
However, the flaw with peasants marching upon a castle is that they are literally assaulting a defensive position (likely with layered troops). Far wiser to revolt (sending the knights packing to the castle) and continue doing as always without a castle.
Quote:If you yelled charge and ran straight towards professional soldiers, I'd run the other way, climb up a hill and watch the epic fail from there. You'd be crawling back half dead with me saying "so, how did it go?"
Coward. After our victory you would be tracked down and slain for your cowardly selfishness at the expense of your fellows, declared a murderer of your fellows by inaction.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day