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A question regarding proof
RE: A question regarding proof
It would be incorrect to state that you have knowledge of what is playing, at the very least. But lets go with this. You have a broken radio, and so you cannot translate what is coming acrossed the air. Is there no way in which you could detect waves of energy without a radio? Lets call radio waves the immaterial for a moment. Our radio is broken, so we can't get totality of knowledge (the contents of the transmission) without a radio. I'm not demanding the you translate that radio wave to me, I'm asking for evidence that there are waves of energy (contents notwithstanding) before I'm willing to say "Yep, that exists". I don't think that we're actually disagreeing about the same thing here. I'm simply repeating over and over that to claim knowledge of something (even knowledge of existence) one must provide something of substance. I'm not arguing that such things certainly do not exist because we haven't measured them. I'm arguing that the person who claims that they do exist has a burden to meet. It is not my responsibility to prove that the immaterial does not exist. One cannot be expected to be taken seriously when they claim that it exists simply because no one has proven that it does not. In this case, any claim that has within it a justification of why it can never be known is a fairly useless claim isn't it? Moreso if that claim conflicts with anything that can be known and has been repeatedly demonstrated.

I've said this in another one of Freds threads (hell, might have been this one). It may be that faeries make cars move, but combustion is an explanation that addresses why engines operate, and even if there were no fairies, we have no reason to assume that combustion would not work. Now, if someone was arguing for fairies over combustion, how would you treat that argument?
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A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 6:52 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Faith No More - September 7, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 7, 2011 at 6:48 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 7:02 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Bandoman - September 7, 2011 at 6:51 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 8:08 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 7, 2011 at 7:35 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 8:21 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Erinome - September 7, 2011 at 7:51 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Erinome - September 7, 2011 at 8:14 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2011 at 8:21 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 9:01 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 9:11 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 7, 2011 at 9:18 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Erinome - September 7, 2011 at 8:57 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 9:21 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Faith No More - September 7, 2011 at 9:31 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 8, 2011 at 4:00 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2011 at 8:58 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2011 at 9:05 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 7, 2011 at 9:06 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 8, 2011 at 4:51 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Faith No More - September 7, 2011 at 9:07 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Erinome - September 7, 2011 at 9:12 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2011 at 9:12 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2011 at 9:27 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Erinome - September 7, 2011 at 9:29 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 7, 2011 at 9:43 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2011 at 9:30 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 7, 2011 at 9:36 pm
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RE: A question regarding proof - by Erinome - September 7, 2011 at 10:35 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Welsh cake - September 8, 2011 at 3:31 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 8, 2011 at 5:19 pm
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RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 8, 2011 at 4:28 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 8, 2011 at 4:18 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by LastPoet - September 8, 2011 at 4:25 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 8, 2011 at 6:23 pm
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RE: A question regarding proof - by Erinome - September 8, 2011 at 4:40 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Faith No More - September 8, 2011 at 5:25 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 8, 2011 at 5:34 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Faith No More - September 8, 2011 at 5:37 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Zen Badger - September 8, 2011 at 6:48 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by little_monkey - September 8, 2011 at 8:37 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2011 at 8:10 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by KichigaiNeko - September 8, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Ace Otana - September 8, 2011 at 9:24 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Faith No More - September 8, 2011 at 12:22 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by ElDinero - September 8, 2011 at 9:16 am
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RE: A question regarding proof - by Welsh cake - September 8, 2011 at 10:18 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by downbeatplumb - September 8, 2011 at 12:42 pm
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RE: A question regarding proof - by Faith No More - September 8, 2011 at 2:46 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 10:20 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 9, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Faith No More - September 8, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 8, 2011 at 2:48 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by ThomM - September 8, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 8, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 8, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 8, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Anomalocaris - September 8, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 8, 2011 at 10:36 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 8, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 8, 2011 at 10:54 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2011 at 9:53 pm
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RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 8, 2011 at 11:20 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2011 at 3:38 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Ryft - September 9, 2011 at 2:41 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 9, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by little_monkey - September 9, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 9, 2011 at 9:07 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 2:56 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by little_monkey - September 9, 2011 at 7:16 am
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RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 10:56 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 11:07 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by Captain Scarlet - September 9, 2011 at 11:46 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by little_monkey - September 9, 2011 at 1:08 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 9, 2011 at 3:25 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 11:47 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 12:07 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 12:23 pm
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RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 12:55 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 1:13 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by downbeatplumb - September 9, 2011 at 2:48 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 10, 2011 at 3:17 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2011 at 1:13 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 1:16 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 2:44 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 3:36 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 4:01 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 4:25 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 4:38 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Faith No More - September 9, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 9, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 5:13 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 9, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 5:13 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 5:46 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 5:53 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by StatCrux - September 9, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 6:11 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2011 at 8:10 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 9, 2011 at 8:34 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 8:14 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2011 at 9:19 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by popeyespappy - September 9, 2011 at 11:17 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2011 at 9:23 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2011 at 10:49 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Ryft - September 10, 2011 at 12:31 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2011 at 1:56 am
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by frankiej - September 10, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Fred - September 10, 2011 at 4:24 pm
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RE: A question regarding proof - by Ryft - September 10, 2011 at 5:08 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Skepsis - September 10, 2011 at 5:59 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2011 at 6:03 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Skepsis - September 10, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Ryft - September 10, 2011 at 9:08 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2011 at 9:42 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by Ryft - September 15, 2011 at 11:56 pm
RE: A question regarding proof - by xxxtobymac - September 16, 2011 at 12:15 am

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