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Argument against atheism
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RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:13 am
(December 19, 2011 at 12:10 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(December 19, 2011 at 12:03 am)amkerman Wrote: i think some may be confused by the term "consciousness as a primary function of the universe". I am not saying that the purpose of the universe is consciousness. The term merely means that consciousness is a property that is inherent in the universe, like the laws of physics, rather than a emergent property of complex systems, like the brain.

Great. Now provide empirical evidence to support that assertion.

That sounded like something I'd read in a Deepak Chopra book.
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RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:16 am
(December 19, 2011 at 12:03 am)amkerman Wrote: i think some may be confused by the term "consciousness as a primary function of the universe". I am not saying that the purpose of the universe is consciousness. The term merely means that consciousness is a property that is inherent in the universe, like the laws of physics, rather than a emergent property of complex systems, like the brain.

It obviously is. We're here, and we're conscious. How does that prove there are any gods?
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#113
RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:17 am
(December 19, 2011 at 12:13 am)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(December 19, 2011 at 12:10 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(December 19, 2011 at 12:03 am)amkerman Wrote: i think some may be confused by the term "consciousness as a primary function of the universe". I am not saying that the purpose of the universe is consciousness. The term merely means that consciousness is a property that is inherent in the universe, like the laws of physics, rather than a emergent property of complex systems, like the brain.

Great. Now provide empirical evidence to support that assertion.

That sounded like something I'd read in a Deepak Chopra book.

It sounded like utter bullshit to me - I suspect that's pretty much what you meant as well.

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#114
RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:17 am
the statement that atheism has no beliefs is false. it's an argument made by cowards and weak minded people to worm their way out of being held accountable for their thoughts or actions.
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RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:19 am
ROFLOL

As a HUMANIST I have beliefs. As an ATHEIST I don't believe in god.

Jesus fucking Christ.

It's not that hard.
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RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:20 am
consciousness as a primary function of the universe is a scientific hypothesis... kinda like the Big Bang... so...
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#117
RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:21 am
(December 19, 2011 at 12:17 am)amkerman Wrote: the statement that atheism has no beliefs is false. it's an argument made by cowards and weak minded people to worm their way out of being held accountable for their thoughts or actions.

More of those simple 'observations' eh? Weren't you just saying how you were not attacking the atheist position? Gotta love it when the true colors come out to play.
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RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:26 am
(December 19, 2011 at 12:20 am)amkerman Wrote: consciousness as a primary function of the universe is a scientific hypothesis... kinda like the Big Bang... so...

So what?

1. Hypothesis != theory.

2. For a hypothesis to have value, it must have evidence to support it, make predictions, and be falsifiable.

You're stuck on 0.

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RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:27 am
(December 19, 2011 at 12:17 am)amkerman Wrote: the statement that atheism has no beliefs is false. it's an argument made by cowards and weak minded people to worm their way out of being held accountable for their thoughts or actions.

And yet you can't back this up, nor change the fucking dictionary.

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(December 19, 2011 at 12:20 am)amkerman Wrote: consciousness as a primary function of the universe is a scientific hypothesis... kinda like the Big Bang... so...

Sounds like you're confused about the difference between a hypothesis and a theory too. The big bang is a theory, and your drivel is a hypothesis.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-diff...thesis.htm
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RE: Argument against atheism
December 19, 2011 at 12:31 am (This post was last modified: December 19, 2011 at 12:33 am by amkerman.)
ugh the big bang is not a theory... man this was obviously the wrong forum.
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