Veganism?

[Faith No More]

Please tell me that is not a real quote.

[Darwinian]

Please tell me that is not a real quote.

I could tell you that but I'd be lying :S

http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/11/18/the-g...-new-book/

[Faith No More]

That...is...EPIC!

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Yet sometimes I wonder if there is truth to the bible and the Quran that obviously says you can eat meat.

Thanks

Meat is good cuz meat is good. Not cuz "god" said so.

[thesummerqueen]

I consider myself a fairly empathetic person and I seriously can't work up the bad feelings people seem to have about eating meat.

I mostly feel bad about them clear-cutting forests and jungles for cattle land. I don't feel bad about eating the beef.

Go figure.

[Anomalocaris]

If humans were adopted to a purely or even largely vegetarian diet, humans would have small chests an an enormous distended belly with miles of digestive track in which plant matter can linger and ferment, sort of like cows, or like gorillas with their cone shaped rib cage sitting atop a big sack of a belly.

But instead humans have barrel shaped chest and rib cage adopted to accommodate an prodigious aerobic capacity needed to run down prey animals over long distances, and a small belly suitable mostly for high quality neutrient sources like meat.

Humans are not fast as far as runners in animal kingdoms go, so our running is not for running away from predators. But we are damn impressive long distance runners. almost no other animal can run win a marathon race with a fit human. It's not for chasing down plants that homo Sapiens have evolved to be the best long distance runner in mammalian world.

So next time when a vegan try to show off her trim stomach, tell her the only reason why she is genetically capable of a flat tummy is because she was not genetically suitable to be a vegetarian.

[thesummerqueen]

Read this book.



It's surprisingly interesting and rather well-written for what seems at first to be a dry topic. I finished it pretty quickly and passed it on to a lover, who also enjoyed it.

There's plenty of information about plants vs meat in there, as well as the cooking aspect.

[Doubting Thomas]

I think I read somewhere that if humans didn't start eating meat, it's likely we wouldn't have evolved bigger and smarter brains with which to learn how to use tools and manipulate our environment. Mainly due to the protein in meat, IIRC.

At any rate, we tend to like food which contains fat, because fat tastes good to us. This is an evolutionary leftover because fat is high in nutrients & energy, and humans who ate a lot of fat were more easily able to survive lean times.

So the question is, if we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they so dang tasty?

[Minimalist]

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/...1999a.html

BERKELEY-- Human ancestors who roamed the dry and open savannas of Africa about 2 million years ago routinely began to include meat in their diets to compensate for a serious decline in the quality of plant foods, according to a physical anthropologist at the University of California, Berkeley.

It was this new meat diet, full of densely-packed nutrients, that provided the catalyst for human evolution, particularly the growth of the brain, said Katharine Milton, an authority on primate diet.

Here you go, D/T.

[Diamond]

May I?

I think what Ervin is trying to point out is the fact that some people go veg*n(<--this is just a short way of spelling vegetarian/vegan) for religious reasons, whereas some people refuse to do so because their holy book says it's okay to eat animal products.
Personally, I didn't go veg for religious reasons. While I was still a Xian when I became a vegetarian, I wasn't thinking about my invisible sky-daddy, what he would think about me if I stopped eating meat, or why he would even put animals on this earth in the first place. All I was the thinking about were my little animal friends(please don't judge me on the way I phrased that).

Ervin, if that indeed is what you're trying to say, well, this may've been said a million times before but I'll just repeat it for the hell of it, we don't need a god to be good people!
As for the whole compassion over killing stuff, one can be compassionate and still eat meat. Compassion can only go so far, nobody's perfect. Not even me. I mean, I'm not even a vegan (yet), I still eat dairy products. It's just that only so many people take their compassion [for animals, in this case] as far as their diet. Others go as far as rescuing animals from a shelter. This is all regardless of whether or we believe in "god"(And allow me to point out that on a veg*n message board that I frequent, there is quite a large number of atheists and agnostics, myself included).

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As for everyone else, don't think for one second that I'm not the least bit tempted to get on my soapbox and try to refute some of your arguements against veg*nism. Clearly, I would be wasting my time.

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