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Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
(February 2, 2012 at 10:03 am)Pel Wrote: Also, are Jehovah's witnesses honest with them selves in their interpretation?
You believe in an infinitely loving and compassionate God who sends people to eternal damnation.

Right now, Jehovah's Witnesses are the least of your troubles.
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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
True but they are symptomatic of stupidity on a grand scale which is frying this country in bullshit.
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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
Quote:And to those who believe in eternal torment: Why would God do something like that?
God doesn't want us in eternal torment. That's why he sent his son Jesus to die in our stead. By giving into our selfish desires we choose and deserve eternal torment. But he takes our sentence and gives us eternal life. All we have to do is accept the gift.
"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life." Romans 6:23
"If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9
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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
(February 2, 2012 at 4:24 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(February 2, 2012 at 10:03 am)Pel Wrote: Also, are Jehovah's witnesses honest with them selves in their interpretation?
You believe in an infinitely loving and compassionate God who sends people to eternal damnation.

Right now, Jehovah's Witnesses are the least of your troubles.

No Cake, I don't believe in any of the revealed religions. Not that I haven't in the past. But I do believe in God and the demons. I just don't know how demons operate. Demons are what you become if you end up an die evil. If you die good you go with God. No punishment whatsoever. Thqts my belief.

I was just wandering about Jehovah's witnesses and those similar to them, why do they believe that eternal torment means eternal death. If you don't exist seems to me that you can't be tormented.

Thanks

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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
(February 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm)Pel Wrote: If you die good you go with God. No punishment whatsoever. Thqts my belief.

What's the point of life if you come from god and go back to him? Why the drama staged in between?

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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
Unless of course one could insert ...

"From the Stars we come, and to the Stars we return"

But then, this is a recent discovery made by science.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
Lot's wife: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on!
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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
People can create a belief system in any way they please, regardless of rhyme or reason. Much in the same way that you have. Asking why they set it up that way generally leads to a long historical journey ending with some random person who either was delusional or decided to just make up some bullshit one day. That's oversimplified, but there you have it.

If you want the details of their system, go ask them or look it up.
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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
Yo Pel Wake up man! Jehovah Witness???? Who gives a shit what they think! The very fact that you would even contemplate anything that these crazed lunatics would have to say about anything is a complete waste of time and mental energy. Hell does not exist, only in the minds of people who dwell in it. It is all psychological, within, not "out there" in the ether of the universe you deluded simpleton.
You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection.

There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth; not going all the way, and not starting.

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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
Quote:That's oversimplified,

No, no. That pretty much nails it.
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