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Cthulhu's Wager
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I would have figured Cthulhu's Wager would involve making sure to be eaten first.
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Leo van Miert Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you 
 (February 14, 2012 at 2:45 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Is it true that there is really nothing to lose by worshiping god?No. Even if there's a god you lose all self-respect and dignity for starters, and then there's the staggering irretrievable amount of time you wasted praying to this deity during your one-and-only life. Muslims who pray 5-a-day have my sympathies.  
'Muslims who pray 5-a-day have my sympathies'
Not mine.  (February 14, 2012 at 3:12 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: 'Muslims who pray 5-a-day have my sympathies' Right. They could wake the fuck up and stop. WTF kind of "god" would want to hear such relentless chanting 5 times a day from a billion assholes anyway? I'd kill them just to get some peace and quiet.  RE: Cthulhu's Wager
February 14, 2012 at 3:28 pm
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2012 at 3:29 pm by Doubting Thomas.)
Same here. They're the ones making a conscious decision to pray five times a day.
The problem with Pascal's Wager is not self-respect, dignity, and wasted time so much as it is the problem of trying to make yourself believe in God in the first place. It would be like trying to make yourself believe that Santa Claus is a real magical person who actually does live up at the North Pole and delivers toys to children around the world once a year. You know there's so much wrong with the myth and the fact that it was a made-up fairy tale that you just can't make yourself believe it, and any motions you go through will just be pretending. I'd much rather not lie to myself. Besides, if God really wants me to worship him, all he's got to do is show me that he exists and is worthy of worship.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
(February 14, 2012 at 3:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(February 14, 2012 at 3:12 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: 'Muslims who pray 5-a-day have my sympathies' One with Alzheimers, Min. (February 14, 2012 at 3:28 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: The problem with Pascal's Wager is not self-respect, dignity, and wasted time so much as it is the problem of trying to make yourself believe in God in the first place. Yes, that's one of the conventional arguments I was trying to avoid rehashing.  I don't believe one can earnestly make oneself believe in god absent something that qualifies in one's mind as evidence, and if an omniscient god existed, he would surely know if you were earnest or not. 
You've got your entire life to lose and everything you do affects others.
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