| Poll: Should weed be legal like cigarettes and alcohol? This poll is closed. |
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 (February 25, 2012 at 4:38 am)Tiberius Wrote: I think violent drug related crime should be punished It's worth noting that all of the violent drug related crimes you refer to are crimes regardless of the legal status of drugs. It can furthermore be argued that criminalization results in an increase in violent crime (c.f. the prohibition of alcohol). 
In my opinion the prohibition of alcohol is a great example of how banning something people want to consume leads to an escalation of the problems its meant to solve!
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true - Carl Sagan
As for the public smoking ban... I think business owners should be allowed to make the decision of whether or not smoking can happen in their establishment, and patrons can decide if they want to go there based upon that. Here we can smoke in bars, but not restaurants serving primarily food. It took away from the dining experience for me, and now I rarely eat out. My friend, who has owned a restaurant for the last 16 years has reported a 30% average decrease in business since this all went down, and while he is not a smoker, and does not like the smell either, he wishes the government would let him decide what goes on in his place.
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I live in a country where I can light up without fear of prosecution and I don't. Just because I can doesn't mean I will or should, everyone is free to do so if he or she wants. You are not bothering anyone, so let it be legal. In my personal experience drunks in general are much more a nuisance than any pothead.
The impact weed makes in my country is so low no-one gives a crap about it, and neither do I.
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(February 25, 2012 at 3:34 pm)aleialoura Wrote: As for the public smoking ban... I think business owners should be allowed to make the decision of whether or not smoking can happen in their establishment, and patrons can decide if they want to go there based upon that. Here we can smoke in bars, but not restaurants serving primarily food. It took away from the dining experience for me, and now I rarely eat out. My friend, who has owned a restaurant for the last 16 years has reported a 30% average decrease in business since this all went down, and while he is not a smoker, and does not like the smell either, he wishes the government would let him decide what goes on in his place. I completely agree. Blanket bans are silly in my opinion (I am a smoker so there is probably a little bias in that opinion!). It should be up to the proprietor if they want to allow smoking on their premises. Here in England pubs (the staple of British life!) are closing at record rates since the smoking ban. People want to enjoy a cigarette with their pint without having to stand outside in the freezing weather. On the odd occasion I go out I am forever going backwards and forwards from my table to the outside smoking area and it totally ruins the mood! The government is even considering legislation to ban smoking in cars, even if one is by themselves! Don't get me wrong, I am a considerate smoker, I never expose my kids to my habit and will not smoke around non-smokers unless they specify it doesn't bother them.
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You know, Summer, there are more ways to get high than smoking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporizer_(cannabis) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_foods And most people who use cigarettes can use vaporizers as well. They just fucking won't. It's your smoking friends decision to incinerate the fucking plant. Let them know or drop doing anything with them. There is more than one way to get the effects of nicotine. Slave to the Patriarchy no more
 
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Weed is pretty harmless imo. Night life would be substantially improved by a significant addition of pot smokers. Alcohol is rated class A. Cocaine I think is B.
I still support it's prohibition in a prescriptive environment such as the one that we live in. As the drug pros I have worked with will attest, the real issue is with progression through habits. That's the reason weed is illegal.  (February 26, 2012 at 5:02 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Weed is pretty harmless imo. Night life would be substantially improved by a significant addition of pot smokers. Alcohol is rated class A. Cocaine I think is B. Nah Cocaine is Class A. This article has a pretty interesting graph at the bottom of it. Take a look where alcohol is. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5230006.stm (For those who can't be arsed looking here is the graph) ![[Image: _41949092_drugs_graph_416.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=newsimg.bbc.co.uk%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F41949000%2Fgif%2F_41949092_drugs_graph_416.gif)
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