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The term "Amen"
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The term "Amen"
O only One, You who were in the sky when there was no land and no mountains.
You Shepherd Lord, One only, Maker of everything there is !


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The striking passages (as they are called by W. Budge) which are cited below come from Egyptian texts and they consist just a sample of a collection of relevant passages effected by the German Egyptologist Heinrich Brugsch:

_God is one and alone, and none other existeth with Him.
_God is the One, the One who made all things.
_God is a spirit, a hidden spirit, the spirit of spirits, the great spirit of the Egyptians, the divine spirit.
_He begetteth, but was never begotten; He produceth, but was never produced;
_He begat himself and produced himself.
_He createth but was never created; He is the maker of his own form, and the
Fashioner of His own body.


Thοse divine attributes, which originally characterized the head-god of every company of gods, became the attributes of the unique Lord God of the monotheistic religions.

The German Egyptologist Jan Assmann writes as follows:

The Theban theology of these decades (18th dynasty, 1570-1293) can be interpreted as an attempt to fill the hyphenated formulation Amun-Re with theological content, that is, to develop a divine concept sufficiently comprehensive to include all the traditions concerning Amun and all those of Re as well. The pure Amun aspect of the city god and the pure Re aspect of the of the sun god are connected by the concept of the supreme being who had already emerged in the theological fragments of the Middle Kingdom (c. 2000-1800) in his aspects of primeval god, creator god, and god of life.
I call this process “additive,” for I have the impression that this new concept of a supreme being was arrived at primarily by accumulation and juxtaposition. All aspects of divine unity –preexistence, creator, sustainer- were combined and connected with one another by means of simple but well ordered juxtapositions of sequences of predicates of Amun and Re.


An indication that Amen-Ra was the first “One and Only God” is the fact that Jews, Christians and Muslims are concluding their prayers by invoking his name: “Amen”

Jewish theologians honored their Amen-Ra worshiping Egyptian tutors by having Christianity and Islam chant Amen’s name for ever and ever!!

Both the name of the god Amen (imn) in the hieroglyphic script as the word Amen (imn) in Hebrew have identical spelling.
In the Wikipedia, however, you will read that the Hebrew word starts with aleph, while the Egyptian name begins with a yodh.

Quote:Popular among some theosophists proponents of Afrocentric theories of history, and adherents of esoteric Christianity is the conjecture that amen is a derivative of the name of the Egyptian god Amun (which is sometimes also spelled Amen). Some adherents of Eastern religions believe that amen shares roots with the Hindu Sanskrit word, Aun. There is no academic support for either of these views. The Hebrew word, as noted above, starts with aleph, while the Egyptian name begins with a yodh.

While it is true that the Egyptian name starts with yodh, in the Egyptian script yodh “at the beginning of words is sometimes identical with aleph” as we are informed by Alan Gardiner, the author of the famous “Egyptian Grammar.”

The reaction of Jewish, Christians and Muslims is to be expected!
Yet, it gives me great pleasure every time I hear the name of the great God being pronounced: “Amen”!
"Culture is memory"

Yuri Lotman


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RE: The term "Amen"
"Popular among some theosophists,[10] proponents of Afrocentric theories of history,[11] and adherents of esoteric Christianity [12][13] is the conjecture that amen is a derivative of the name of the Egyptian god Amun (which is sometimes also spelled Amen). Some adherents of Eastern religions believe that amen shares roots with the Hindu Sanskrit word, Aum.[14][15][16][17] There is no academic support for either of these views."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen
(bolding is mine)

But hey, when did that ever stop you?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The term "Amen"
(February 29, 2012 at 11:37 am)Rhythm Wrote: But hey, when did that ever stop you?

The day I get academic support I’ll shoot my pc. Big Grin
"Culture is memory"

Yuri Lotman


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RE: The term "Amen"
Quote:The usage of Amen, meaning "so be it", as found in the early scriptures of the Bible is said to be of Hebrew origin;[5][6] however, the basic triconsonantal root from which the word was derived is common to a number of Semitic Languages such as Aramaic and Arabic. The word was imported into the Greek of the early Church from Judaism.[1][7] From Greek, amen entered the other Western languages. According to a standard dictionary etymology, amen passed from Greek into Late Latin, and thence into English.[8]

From the same reference.
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RE: The term "Amen"
(February 29, 2012 at 11:45 am)dtango Wrote: The day I get academic support I’ll shoot my pc. Big Grin

Really? Because that's the day I'd apologize for being so rough, offer to buy you a beer, and congratulate you on a job well done.

I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The term "Amen"
(February 29, 2012 at 11:51 am)Rhythm Wrote: Really? Because that's the day I'd apologize for being so rough, offer to buy you a beer, and congratulate you on a job well done.

Rhythm dearest!!

Hear this:

Revelation 3:14

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write These things saith the Amen the faithful and true witness the beginning of the creation of God.

Amen is a proper name by which Jesus is called. In this case therefore Amen means god.

In all available Greek manuscripts the last phrase reads : «η αρχή της κτίσεως του Θεού», which means “the beginning of the building of the God”. Not “the beginning of the God’s creation” because Amen is called “faithful”, “true witness” and “beginning of the creation of God”.

Theologians knew that the building of the new idea of the God commenced with Amen!

Any time now Academia will inform Pope of this Amen fiasco and Pope will immediately put a stop to all these sinful invocations of Amen.
I expect that he will instruct the faithful to conclude instead their prayers with “Papa.” Big Grin

"Culture is memory"

Yuri Lotman


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RE: The term "Amen"
Ah, I see, misread. Anytime now "the evidence will be revealed"..lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#8
RE: The term "Amen"
The term 'amen'? It's just a grammar error, nothing to get worked up over. Should be 'a man', or some variant of 'some men'. Either way: someone's getting shot.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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