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RE: Another Iraq coming?
March 7, 2012 at 6:11 pm
John McCain wants to bomb Syria first.
In fact, that fossilized fuckhead has never seen an international issue that he did not want to drop bombs on.
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RE: Another Iraq coming?
March 7, 2012 at 6:12 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2012 at 6:13 pm by kılıç_mehmet.)
(March 7, 2012 at 6:08 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: That's all we need is another war, because our other recent wars in the Middle East have gone so smoothly.
Do you have a reason to think otherwise?
(March 7, 2012 at 6:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote: John McCain wants to bomb Syria first.
In fact, that fossilized fuckhead has never seen an international issue that he did not want to drop bombs on.
Well, he wants others to bomb it for them.
America is now in a delicate state. People can't handle another war so soon.
So let the other NATO countries deal with it.
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RE: Another Iraq coming?
March 7, 2012 at 6:33 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2012 at 6:44 pm by Anomalocaris.)
Any attack on Iran would be a large scale raid followed by a martime sea control operation in the gulf, rather than a land war. So a "war" with Iran would be totally unlike the war in Iraq. The direct cost of military operation against Iran would therefore be negligible compare to the cost of stationing hundreds of thousands of troops in war zone for 9 years.
The indirect cost would be much larger. Oil price would probably spike as Iran would hit out at the oil export capabilities of the other Gulf states, World economic recovery would sustain a significant hit. If the growth rate of just US economy were to reduce by 1% for 2012 as a result of oil price spike from the raid on Iran, that would be equivalent to an indirect war cost of $150 billion dollars. $150 billion substantially exceeds the estimated annual subsidy to health insurance under Obamacare which the GOP so deplore.
If the aggregate growthrate of the world were to decline by 1% this year as a result of oil prices, that would mean the indirect cost of raid on Iran would exceed half a trillion.
But this is a truth far too inconvenient to dwell upon.
As to oil wars, I think the probability of future oil wars in the middleeast is declining. The primary reason is the US is the only outside country with the military capability to actually wage such a war, and the advant of hydraulic frakking and lateral drilling will like increase the production capacity in North America to such an extend that American import from Middleeast would become discretionary and American production can be used to modulate price impact of middle east instability.
But this doesn't mean chances of war in middle east would decline.
Another state in the middleeast going nuclear is just a matter of time, even if Iran is prevented for the time being from doing so. To keep the middle east perpetually in a state where some country might seem like it wants to nuke Israel, while trying all the time to keep those countries from getting a nuclear weapon, is bound to fail some times. When it does, the real show will begin.
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RE: Another Iraq coming?
March 7, 2012 at 6:40 pm
(March 7, 2012 at 6:12 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: (March 7, 2012 at 6:08 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: That's all we need is another war, because our other recent wars in the Middle East have gone so smoothly.
Do you have a reason to think otherwise?
(March 7, 2012 at 6:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote: John McCain wants to bomb Syria first.
In fact, that fossilized fuckhead has never seen an international issue that he did not want to drop bombs on.
Well, he wants others to bomb it for them.
America is now in a delicate state. People can't handle another war so soon.
So let the other NATO countries deal with it.
Sorry, Mehmet, you're wrong.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2...rikes.html
Quote:WASHINGTON -- Frustrated by a diplomatic logjam and a bloody Syrian offensive, Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday urged the United States to launch airstrikes against President Bashar Assad's regime to force him out of power -- a call for dramatic military intervention that wasn't supported by the Obama administration or its European or Arab partners.
BOMBS AWAY...
That's about all he knows.
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RE: Another Iraq coming?
March 8, 2012 at 11:05 pm
(March 7, 2012 at 6:12 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: So let the other NATO countries deal with it.
Like... the Turks perhaps?
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RE: Another Iraq coming?
March 9, 2012 at 12:52 am
As a U.S.A.F. veteran, a full scale war in Iran at this time would spell outright disaster for everyone in the world. I totally agree with Napolean's posts. The only salvation from this happening woud be if Ron Paul became president, but I pessimistcally don't expect that to happen. Iran is not going to attack anybody. They are in a defensive stategic position...obviously! America, the superpower with thousands of nukes that are ready to be launched for profit, is the aggressor and the antagonist in the Middle East. It is all political. Listen to the fucking veterans who have been there in Iraq and Afghanistan (like Vietnam) and wake up!
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RE: Another Iraq coming?
March 9, 2012 at 12:54 am
Quote:The only salvation from this happening woud be if Ron Paul became president,
But then, the country is fucked anyway.
Fortunately, Paul is fading like a fart on a windy day.
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RE: Another Iraq coming?
March 9, 2012 at 12:56 am
(March 9, 2012 at 12:54 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:The only salvation from this happening woud be if Ron Paul became president,
But then, the country is fucked anyway.
Fortunately, Paul is fading like a fart on a windy day.
WHY? Because you are minimalist?
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