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Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
#21
RE: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
Haha, I'm not Jewish. No one in my family will be a banker. (Summer . . . . Tongue)

It's not more productive than lawyers, scientists and even carpenters. There is a saying that the world needs ditch diggers. The world needs prostitutes too. The world needs people who use their brains more than anything else. Again, no offense, but it hardly takes a rocket scientist to sell her vagina and it is deplorable to imagine a person who could contribute in such a way taking the lazy way out and selling herself for money. If she's horny, she can be a rocket scientist and have sex for free.
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#22
RE: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
It seems like a fabulous business model to me.


You sell it and you've still got it.
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#23
RE: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
(March 7, 2012 at 8:28 pm)aleialoura Wrote: Also, I would never call prostitutes "whores", or the establishments they work "whorehouses".

I've known several prostitutes who were nice, nonjudgmental people, and I wouldn't want to hurt their feelings, but that's just me.

What?! Alei, don't give me a lesson in ethics. A prostitute is a whore. A whorehouse is a brothel. They are not less than worthy words. Henry Miller called a whore he fell in love with a whore in Tropic of Cancer. If it is good enough for Henry Miller, it is good enough for you and me.

I have not derided people in these any way whatsoever.
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#24
Re: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
A massage parlour got raided in Birmingham and when they showed the footage on the news every single dude that ran out had a half beard and a fetching little hat so if strippers are OK in Islam they are fine by me Tongue I thought they liked their women wrapped, I must have been wrong ,in fact some lad called zakir 250 has just sent me 30 links written by scholars excusing their actions as apparently being a hypocritical twat on the hagley road doesn't count. Big Grin
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#25
RE: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
(March 7, 2012 at 8:50 pm)Chris F Wrote: A massage parlour got raided in Birmingham and when they showed the footage on the news every single dude that ran out had a half beard and a fetching little hat so if strippers are OK in Islam they are fine by me Tongue I thought they liked their women wrapped, I must have been wrong

ROFLOL

I would love to have seen that!
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#26
RE: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
(March 7, 2012 at 8:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It seems like a fabulous business model to me.


You sell it and you've still got it.

Sure, but you have to stop selling it eventually. Let's face it, once you're past your twenties, your clientele is going to shrink drastically. It's not a smart move to depend on your body for money, especially in lieu of going to school.

Again, I simply prefer better for my family. I assume none of you want your children to be strippers and prostitutes. I just said it.
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#27
RE: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
(March 7, 2012 at 8:35 pm)Shell B Wrote: I never said any of it was not okay, obviously. People can do it for whatever the hell reason they want. I would prefer people in my family choose more productive trades. It's not personal. I have absolutely nothing against there being prostitution or stripping. I do have something against a member of my family doing it. A member who could put their mind to use instead relying on their body, which will only have retail value for so long.

And yet so many people do it because they're paying for their college educations. What mind utilizing job paid for your college education?

Quote:Why would I want my niece to be a prostitute instead of a lawyer?

Well, law school is actually pretty expensive without scholarships and grants. I'm sure there are many lawyers out there who stripped their way through college. I know one. Her name is Michelle, and she was the most amazing thing I've ever seen slide down a pole, but now she's a successful attorney. TaDa!

Quote:Why would I prefer my nephew sell his body instead of becoming a professional athlete and a man who can actually tell his children what he does for a living?

Male prostitutes are usually gay. You know that, right?

Quote:Think about this objectively. I don't give a shit what people I do not know do. I do give a shit what my family does and prefer better, yes, better. I'm sorry. Again, it's nothing personal.

I am not offended whatsoever. I would like to say that I've decided that from what I know about you, I don't like you at all, Shell B. I think you're a rude, mean-spirited, snobbish hater of sorts. I don't get offended by those people, I psychoanalyze them, draw conclusions about their inner-workings and chuckle a bit, but I would have to give a shit what you think first in order to become offended.

I know you probably don't give a shit if I like you, what I think of you, etc. I just wanted you to know that the feelings are mutual.

If I've offended anyone else by espousing my honest feelings about Shell, I'm very sorry, but I treat people how I would want to be treated, and I value and respect people who are honest with me. So, I felt it needed to be said.

Quote:I do write for money. I also write for pleasure. I can't catch an STD or get beat up by a client doing what I do. Huge difference there.

No, but you could walk down the street and get beaten and raped and catch an STD that way. So don't say you "can't" because unless you're superhuman, you can. As much as I don't like you, I hope that never happens, I'm just saying.
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#28
RE: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
(March 7, 2012 at 8:57 pm)aleialoura Wrote: And yet so many people do it because they're paying for their college educations. What mind utilizing job paid for your college education?

Did I say there was anything wrong with doing it to pay for your college education and moving on to do something else? Nope. I was a chef for ten years before I did this. I didn't sell drugs or my body. Though I used both at my whim. Tongue

Quote:Well, law school is actually pretty expensive without scholarships and grants. I'm sure there are many lawyers out there who stripped their way through college.

Sure. The question remains. Why would I want someone in my family to do that?

Quote:Male prostitutes are usually gay. You know that, right?

And the point of that lesson is? My nephew can't have kids if he is gay? Do you imagine that I would like him less if he was gay?

Quote:I am not offended whatsoever. I would like to say that I've decided that from what I know about you, I don't like you at all, Shell B. I think you're a rude, mean-spirited, snobbish hater of sorts. I don't get offended by those people, I psychoanalyze them, draw conclusions about their inner-workings and chuckle a bit, but I would have to give a shit what you think first in order to become offended.

That's nice, Alei. Are you done with your bid for attention?

Quote:I know you probably don't give a shit if I like you, what I think of you, etc. I just wanted you to know that the feelings are mutual.

Hardly. I don't have any "feelings" toward you. I don't dislike you. You're not one of my friends here, but I honestly can't say I dislike you.

Quote:No, but you could walk down the street and get beaten and raped and catch an STD that way. So don't say you "can't" because unless you're superhuman, you can. As much as I don't like you, I hope that never happens, I'm just saying.

Oh, and that would somehow have to do with my job, how?

Cheerio, drama queen. Big Grin
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#29
RE: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
(March 7, 2012 at 8:53 pm)Shell B Wrote: . It's not a smart move to depend on your body for money, especially in lieu of going to school.

What if they depend on their bodies to pay for school? Best of both worlds, provide an much needed public service, while building a foundation for a more productive life.

Big Grin
(March 7, 2012 at 8:53 pm)Shell B Wrote: .
Again, I simply prefer better for my family. I assume none of you want your children to be strippers and prostitutes. I just said it.

Better to prostitute one's body than one's intellect.

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#30
RE: Strippers, Prostitutes, and Respectability
(March 7, 2012 at 9:08 pm)Chuck Wrote: What if they depend on their bodies to pay for school? Best of both worlds, provide an much needed public service, while building a foundation for a more productive life.

Big Grin

Again, totally okay with it. I have no problem with it whatsoever. Now, I do not prefer it for my family. Wouldn't you prefer your family members be able to afford college without stripping?

(March 7, 2012 at 8:53 pm)Shell B Wrote: .

Better to prostitute one's body than one's intellect.

Even better still to use the latter for something important. Smile

What's wrong with standards?
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