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Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
#21
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
It was a caching issue. I had that error last night whilst I was reconfiguring the server. Basically one of our CSS files is auto-generated via PHP, and it wasn't generating properly due to some caching settings I had on the server. Anyway, if something like that happens again, either empty the entire browser cache, or force-reload the page (Ctrl + Shift + R in Firefox).
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#22
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
(March 11, 2012 at 8:51 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: 5 inches of space between every topic for a rating system?


ARGH! It looks like shit!

Rating system? Didn't realise there was one,nor does it interest me,at all.

I use kudos and reps..
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#23
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
(March 11, 2012 at 10:20 pm)Tiberius Wrote: It was a caching issue. I had that error last night whilst I was reconfiguring the server. Basically one of our CSS files is auto-generated via PHP, and it wasn't generating properly due to some caching settings I had on the server. Anyway, if something like that happens again, either empty the entire browser cache, or force-reload the page (Ctrl + Shift + R in Firefox).

Thats what i thought...because it seemed to go in and out.

Thanks for the intel. Will keep that in memory.

BTW... what is your opinion on auto gen CSS? Good? Bad? Do you think there is a better alternative?
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#24
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
It's good in the context it is used in here. All CSS is stored in the database so we can edit it easily. MyBB has its own internal cache as well though.
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#25
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
(March 11, 2012 at 11:17 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Thats what i thought...because it seemed to go in and out.

BTW... what is your opinion on auto gen CSS? Good? Bad? Do you think there is a better alternative?

I'm not certain you really understand what you're asking, as it is a rather silly question to ask.

Let's first consider what is being used here -- most likely it is a php script with a series of cheap conditionals that paste in text or not. Since cycling through and globbing lines of text together is trivially easy in something like PHP (and fast!), a dynamically generated CSS, for the most part, is mostly comparable to a static CSS file, as you're not going to get radically different or complex style changes between browsers.

Other times, it may be stored in a database for retrieval, with cached copies stored in memory and fast media locales for quick access. In any case, most uses will have CSS's with minor differences, so storing the differences and a base copy is often easy.
Slave to the Patriarchy no more
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#26
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
(March 11, 2012 at 11:35 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:
(March 11, 2012 at 11:17 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Thats what i thought...because it seemed to go in and out.

BTW... what is your opinion on auto gen CSS? Good? Bad? Do you think there is a better alternative?

I'm not certain you really understand what you're asking, as it is a rather silly question to ask.

Let's first consider what is being used here -- most likely it is a php script with a series of cheap conditionals that paste in text or not. Since cycling through and globbing lines of text together is trivially easy in something like PHP (and fast!), a dynamically generated CSS, for the most part, is mostly comparable to a static CSS file, as you're not going to get radically different or complex style changes between browsers.

Other times, it may be stored in a database for retrieval, with cached copies stored in memory and fast media locales for quick access. In any case, most uses will have CSS's with minor differences, so storing the differences and a base copy is often easy.

No, I am well aware of what I ask. I prefer plain old validated CSS. It is constant regardless of browser.

auto gen, I agree, is very close to static CSS...close...variables still apply to it.
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#27
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
Gods this is hard to deal with.

You're not even wrong. And that's saying a lot.

"Dynamic CSS" is just CSS that, at some stage, is manipulated such that the final version is different from the initial version.

Validated CSS is just CSS that succeeds a standards parser -- if the original version is valid, then the derived versions, unless they add in nonstandard or invalid CSS manipulations, will be valid.

Furthermore, "plain old validated CSS" is... ... ... Not even wrong. What the hell is it compared to? Invalid CSS?

That's like saying "I prefer plain old source code" -- source is source. If it is invalid, broken, then it will not work. Or it will have bugs.


(March 11, 2012 at 11:49 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: No, I am well aware of what I ask. I prefer plain old validated CSS. It is constant regardless of browser.

auto gen, I agree, is very close to static CSS...close...variables still apply to it.

This statement is very Pippy-like. It reminds me when we talked about environmental toxins and concentrations thereof, Pippy would continually assert that "toxins are toxins", as if that was a meaningful sentence.

The sourced quote above is totally nonsensical. As I said, CSS that is built dynamically, if it uses valid CSS expressions, will be dynamic.

The reason one may want to make flexible CSS's is to support:
- different themes
- different display medias

in a flexible and development friendly model.
Slave to the Patriarchy no more
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#28
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
(March 12, 2012 at 12:00 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Gods this is hard to deal with.

You're not even wrong. And that's saying a lot.

"Dynamic CSS" is just CSS that, at some stage, is manipulated such that the final version is different from the initial version.

Validated CSS is just CSS that succeeds a standards parser -- if the original version is valid, then the derived versions, unless they add in nonstandard or invalid CSS manipulations, will be valid.

Furthermore, "plain old validated CSS" is... ... ... Not even wrong. What the hell is it compared to? Invalid CSS?

That's like saying "I prefer plain old source code" -- source is source. If it is invalid, broken, then it will not work. Or it will have bugs.


(March 11, 2012 at 11:49 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: No, I am well aware of what I ask. I prefer plain old validated CSS. It is constant regardless of browser.

auto gen, I agree, is very close to static CSS...close...variables still apply to it.

This statement is very Pippy-like. It reminds me when we talked about environmental toxins and concentrations thereof, Pippy would continually assert that "toxins are toxins", as if that was a meaningful sentence.

The sourced quote above is totally nonsensical. As I said, CSS that is built dynamically, if it uses valid CSS expressions, will be dynamic.

The reason one may want to make flexible CSS's is to support:
- different themes
- different display medias

in a flexible and development friendly model.

LOL, I have made themes for SMF, Joomla, Geeklog and Wordpress. I have even worked Flash into them. No need to get upset, lol, and of course Im right. You are right as well.

I prefer working with flash. Having static systems are much easier to get Flash to validate.

Its nothing against you...lol...its just me and my Macromedia.
(March 11, 2012 at 11:33 pm)Tiberius Wrote: It's good in the context it is used in here. All CSS is stored in the database so we can edit it easily. MyBB has its own internal cache as well though.

For the most part I agree. Most forums need to be changeable for many different reasons. The ability to make daughter themes is also a plus...but the system can also get to the point where it seems to be held together by "paper clips and masking tape" LOL. I dont think this forum is anywhere that bad though Smile
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#29
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
(March 12, 2012 at 12:30 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I prefer working with flash. Having static systems are much easier to get Flash to validate.

Evidently...

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3...ator%2F1.2

vs

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3...ator%2F1.2

Tongue
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#30
RE: Who hates the "thread rating" as much as I do?
(March 12, 2012 at 2:25 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(March 12, 2012 at 12:30 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I prefer working with flash. Having static systems are much easier to get Flash to validate.

Evidently...

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3...ator%2F1.2

vs

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3...ator%2F1.2

Tongue

YIKES!!! Im in the middle of working on the arcade. I did have plain html before that was very much valid..now I am trying out wordpress on it.

Unless you know of a CMS that can handle an arcade, comic books, etc... to be honest I havent been very happy with Worpress and the big demands JCA has.
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