More Kony Shit

[LastPoet]

Let me know your thoughts Tibby.

I would obviously like to encourage others to watch as well, he raises some very good points.

Yet, he fails to provide alternatives to solve the kony problem Napo. Half a minute in he says: "something feels fishy". How nice.

Like I said before, its easy to destrot initiatives, but the same people that do so fail to provide a better solution. And he claims that the kony video is propaganda.... What do you call his video?

[Tiberius]

I hope it was a joke. Still, I kinda want 11 minutes and 31 seconds of my life back.

[Napoléon]

You really watched the entire video? You don't think the points he makes are valid?

You don't think that the whole Kony movement is just one big giant campaign for war?

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Please tell me you are joking.

The points he makes in the video are fair points, I don't see why you think it is comical.

[LastPoet]

Funny you're so skeptical about the kony video, but then you so easily accept this guy's video Napo. Where in the kony video is saying a war must be started?

[Napoléon]

Funny you're so skeptical about the kony video, but then you so easily accept this guy's video Napo. Where in the kony video is saying a war must be started?

Where did I say I accept this guy's video anymore than the Kony video. All I'm saying is he raises interesting points.

The Kony video is most definitely pro war. You're blind if you can't see that. All the 'stand up and let's do something about this', the 'lets make the government do something, send troops etc'.

Otherwise what the fuck is the purpose of the Kony video if it isn't to get the US government to send in troops and kick Kony's ass?

[Tiberius]

Ok, apparently you were serious.

War with Uganda (or any other country) is not mentioned at all in the video, nor is it the point of the video. A war with Iran has been on the cards for years, and I fail to see how a video about Uganda (an African country) is going to make people support a war with Iran (a Middle Eastern country). Not only is there the massive geographical difference, but the entire point of the video is to bring one man and his small band of militants to justice at the International Criminal Court (hence why the ICC is featured in the film). It is not about a military invasion of another country; it is about having the military of non-Ugandan countries help the Ugandan army get rid of one of their worst war criminals. This is more of a peace-keeping mission than anything else, and I'm in complete favour of missions where we don't use our armies to kill innocent civillians, but instead use them to hunt down known criminals and bring them to justice.

Also, this guy claims to have been on YouTube for 2 years, and yet he doesn't think it's possible for a video like this to get 40 million views in a couple of days? Pull the other one. Social media is extremely powerful; there is a reason why so many companies now hire people just to visit reddit or twitter all day. This kind of stuff travels very quickly on the Internet.

Sorry, but my bullshit alarms went off when he started going on about CIA conspiracies.

[Napoléon]

War with Uganda (or any other country) is not mentioned at all in the video, nor is it the point of the video. A war with Iran has been on the cards for years, and I fail to see how a video about Uganda (an African country) is going to make people support a war with Iran (a Middle Eastern country).

Umm, not sure wtf you're going on about with Iran. You went off on a tangent there

I think the aim is quite clear with that video. How else are you going to 'bring Kony to justice' without some kind of military intervention.

the entire point of the video is to bring one man and his small band of militants to justice at the International Criminal Court (hence why the ICC is featured in the film). It is not about a military invasion of another country; it is about having the military of non-Ugandan countries help the Ugandan army get rid of one of their worst war criminals.

Not doubting it. So why the need for the US government to get involved?Isn't this something that Uganda and its neighbours should work out? What is the social media going to do to persuade the neighbouring countries of Uganda? What is the US government going to do? The only message I seem to get from the Kony video is "something should be done". Well what is this something. How is getting the US government involved going to do anything, UNLESS it's going to send in it's own military. Otherwise I can't see much it can do. Or am I missing something.

Also, this guy claims to have been on YouTube for 2 years, and yet he doesn't think it's possible for a video like this to get 40 million views in a couple of days? Pull the other one. Social media is extremely powerful; there is a reason why so many companies now hire people just to visit reddit or twitter all day. This kind of stuff travels very quickly on the Internet.

The social media is powerful, but how does liking a video on Youtube save kids lives in Uganda? The video kinda missed that part for me so maybe you can explain that.

Sorry, but my bullshit alarms went off when he started going on about CIA conspiracies.

I'll admit, I don't agree with everything he said. I also found it comical when he mentioned that. But I do think several of the points he raised were valid. And I do think that the Kony video is pro-war, but maybe that is up to interpretation.

[NoMoreFaith]

[Tiberius]

Umm, not sure wtf you're going on about with Iran. You went off on a tangent there

Did we watch the same video? His entire point was that Kony 2012 is a government plot aimed at getting people to support war, so that the US can invade Iran.

I think the aim is quite clear with that video. How else are you going to 'bring Kony to justice' without some kind of military intervention.

Not all military intervention is war.

Not doubting it. So why the need for the US government to get involved?Isn't this something that Uganda and its neighbours should work out? What is the social media going to do to persuade the neighbouring countries of Uganda? What is the US government going to do? The only message I seem to get from the Kony video is "something should be done". Well what is this something. How is getting the US government involved going to do anything, UNLESS it's going to send in it's own military. Otherwise I can't see much it can do. Or am I missing something.

They already are involved; they have deployed 100 troops already to help the Ugandan military. The point is, those troops need to stay there until the job is done, or increased if Kony starts to rebuild his army. I'm not sure you fully understand what Kony 2012 is actually about...this was all covered in the Kony 2012 viral video.

The social media is powerful, but how does liking a video on Youtube save kids lives in Uganda? The video kinda missed that part for me so maybe you can explain that.

Simple:

1) Video sheds light on injustice that most people are unaware of.
2) Millions of people watch video.
3) Millions of people are now aware of injustice, and demand something is done about it.
4) Government listens to will of people (rare, I know, but it happens) and does something.

If you thought that the whole point of Kony 2012 is to "like" a video and then not do anything else, you probably didn't watch the video all the way through. It is all about action; making enough noise and getting enough people to learn about Kony and his crimes that the government will get off their ass and do something about it.

I'll admit, I don't agree with everything he said. I also found it comical when he mentioned that. But I do think several of the points he raised were valid. And I do think that the Kony video is pro-war, but maybe that is up to interpretation.

It's pro-military, I'll give you that, but the military is meant to do other things apart from fight in wars. Military's main purpose (at least it should be) is to defend the homeland. Other functions include peacekeeping missions with allies, etc. Helping the international court try and arrest these people is a good idea in my opinion, and I don't care if the people helping out are military, civilian, or just regular police.

[Napoléon]