Evolution

[Faith No More]

A logical being would not care if people believed in God or not.

Nor would a logical god.

[Kratos]

Give me a god so we know what it is?

Well, he's bashed Jewish people extensively in other posts. He's called Christians preachy, and he's said some positive things about Allah. He's also advocated anarchy. So I think he's most likely a Muslim Anarchist, though he won't say.

I have looked into Islam but I like my alcohol and music and I can't bend my knee to God. I am just too anarchic, I didn't ask to be born so why should I grovel to God? Out of fear? I will not submit to fear. I suppose my interpretation of God/s is not of the organised religions, they are too collectivist or "Borg" (as I have read in another post). But I have seen the religious Borg slowly changing into a Godless global state worshipping Borg and I think this Borg is worse.

[Aegrus]

I have looked into Islam but I like my alcohol and music and I can't bend my knee to God. I am just too anarchic, I didn't ask to be born so why should I grovel to God? Out of fear? I will not submit to fear. I suppose my interpretation of God/s is not of the organised religions, they are too collectivist or "Borg" (as I have read in another post). But I have seen the religious Borg slowly changing into a Godless global state worshipping Borg and I think this Borg is worse.

You're going to want to change your religious views from theist to something else, then, as the definition of theist is:

Theist- Belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in a personal God as creator and ruler of the world.

Unless you're saying that you actually believe in god, you just don't listen to him/her/them. Then that's just foolish, for obvious reasons. An omnipotent god would be a pointless thing to fight.

[fuckass365]

The only thing worthy of your praise and "worship" as a "creator" is the universe.

[Kratos]

I have looked into Islam but I like my alcohol and music and I can't bend my knee to God. I am just too anarchic, I didn't ask to be born so why should I grovel to God? Out of fear? I will not submit to fear. I suppose my interpretation of God/s is not of the organised religions, they are too collectivist or "Borg" (as I have read in another post). But I have seen the religious Borg slowly changing into a Godless global state worshipping Borg and I think this Borg is worse.

You're going to want to change your religious views from theist to something else, then, as the definition of theist is:

Theist- Belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in a personal God as creator and ruler of the world.

Unless you're saying that you actually believe in god, you just don't listen to him/her/them. Then that's just foolish, for obvious reasons. An omnipotent god would be a pointless thing to fight.

Well God never speaks to me, others called messenger prophets said God communicated with them and so they write their Holy Books. But people have the ability to lie, so by using logic they cannot be trusted. "Trust in God but tie up your camel" that line says it all.

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The only thing worthy of your praise and "worship" as a "creator" is the universe.

Maybe the universe is God like a giant sea urchin containing the time space continuum and everything. Endless possibilities.

[NoMoreFaith]

You seem to have a small issue differentiating from the improbable to the probable if you think a giant sea urchin, or invisible sky daddy is equiprobable.

[Kratos]

Do most atheists believe in democracy?

[Aegrus]

Do most atheists believe in democracy?

What's to believe in? It's a system of government. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. More important than the system is who's leading it, and who's following it.

This seems very off-topic from evolution now.

[Kratos]

Do most atheists believe in democracy?

What's to believe in? It's a system of government. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. More important than the system is who's leading it, and who's following it.

This seems very off-topic from evolution now.

I suppose I have wandered off topic. If you live in a country with a large majority of theists, supporting democracy would be a self defeating system for an atheist. You need a state of your own like the Jews took Israel. Imagine an atheist state where people are all Godless and pragmatic. It would suit you fine, all laws, morals and ethics would be on a purely logical and scientific basis. The Soviet Union was atheist but it failed because it forced the people into atheism plus it was socialist and socialism works well in theory but doen't work in practise. So a capitalist atheist state would be good. Atheists could unite and petition the UN to give them a state of their own maybe big and empty like Canada. Or if you live in the USA you could have a partition and take some of the more Godless states like California and Nevada. India split to make Parkistan and Bangladesh. Even though there are more Muslims in India and the Banglas are probably more pagan than Muslim. Forgive my rambling, what do you think? At the end of the day it is pointless to have an atheist forum to no purpose. Everything is politics surely?

[Creed of Heresy]

Hi I was wondering if athiests believe in evolution. And Earth is a fairly new world cosmically speaking could it be possible that God/s evolved before Earth? Let me simplify, a god is a being with the power of creation, a master of maipulation of energy and matter. Could it be possible that in the eons of the Chaos the Gods evolved?

That would make the god(s) irrelevant seems if they evolved we could evolve anyway. It sounds closer to the aliens did it idea than what you would call a modern god.

As far as possibility of that I see it as very very unlikely for a powerful being that could be considered super human. Almost certainly impossible for the god of any 'modern' religion.

Modern religion has it's uses, if you convince the masses God is watching you all the time and you better be good or else Hell fire will be your lot. You need less police. You have self oppression, today Godless people tend to use Marxism, Feminism and Humanism to oppress themselves. Think about it, when the USA was devoutly Christian there was far less crime.

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Sociologist Phil Zuckerman analyzed previous social science research on secularity and non-belief, and concluded that societal well-being is positively correlated with irreligion. His findings relating specifically to atheism include:[145][154]

Compared to religious people, "atheists and secular people" are less nationalistic, prejudiced, antisemitic, racist, dogmatic, ethnocentric, close-minded, and authoritarian.
In the US, in states with the highest percentages of atheists, the murder rate is lower than average. In the most religious US states, the murder rate is higher than average.


Get your fucking facts straight, bible thumper.