Star Trek Difficulties

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

Found this Star Trek site that tries to solve Star Trek canon contradictions/discontinuities. Reminds me of those four and five hundred paged long books that try to solve all Bible contradictions (or as they like to say, "difficulties"), most of the time with ad hoc solutions. Whether Star Trek or the Bible, it's basically the same exercise a lot of the time: http://canonfodder.ex-astris-scientia.org/?Index

[Neo-Scholastic]

I just picked up watching Voyager twenty years later. When it was on the air, I was pretty busy and didn't have time for it. 2 of the first three episodes are time travel related with all the paradoxes involved.

[Cyberman]

I quite often look around Ex Astris Scientia, the parent site, but somehow I missed this part of it. What amuses me is that these sort of 'difficulties' in something like Star Trek or similar are regarded as plot holes and are only to be expected from a long(ish) running series with many writers (Doctor Who is the same, only more so since it's initial run lasted twenty-six years). The same plot holes in the bible are brushed over as a) not there; b) translation errors; c) not meant literally; d) all of the above - a problem made so much worse since the book is meant to have only one, divine, author which either wrote the thing itself or dictated it.

[Paul the Human]

Yeah. The difference between Star Trek and the bible is that no one believes that Star Trek is true.

[Cyberman]

I wouldn't rule out the possibilty. Every group has, shall we say, its more extreme elements.

[Paul the Human]

Fair enough. I mean...Scientology exists.

[Anomalocaris]

Yeah. The difference between Star Trek and the bible is that no one believes that Star Trek is true.

The trekkies who converse in make belief Klingon language come close. But silly as they are, they probably have the wits to know what they are trying to grunt, unlike tongue speaking morons at revivalist meetings.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

I quite often look around Ex Astris Scientia, the parent site, but somehow I missed this part of it. What amuses me is that these sort of 'difficulties' in something like Star Trek or similar are regarded as plot holes and are only to be expected from a long(ish) running series with many writers (Doctor Who is the same, only more so since it's initial run lasted twenty-six years). The same plot holes in the bible are brushed over as a) not there; b) translation errors; c) not meant literally; d) all of the above - a problem made so much worse since the book is meant to have only one, divine, author which either wrote the thing itself or dictated it.

Some inerrantists are changing the definition of inerrancy now to allow contradictions. I've heard some say that that the stories of the O.T. don't have to be factually true since they only served to give Israel "cultural identity." Contradictions in the gospels stories can be allowed now because it was part of the literary genre of writers adding fictive elements in a biography. It's becoming increasingly difficult for me to distinguish the Bible from myth as they concede more and more.

[Minimalist]

Yeah. The difference between Star Trek and the bible is that no one believes that Star Trek is true.

But there is hope for Star Trek.

The bible is just pure, unadulterated, shit.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

I just picked up watching Voyager twenty years later. When it was on the air, I was pretty busy and didn't have time for it. 2 of the first three episodes are time travel related with all the paradoxes involved.

I watched the original Star Trek when it was first aired here (in (B&W) and loved it.


A few years ago I bought a few original episodes on VHS. They had not aged well. The advanced technology seemed primitive,the acting either wooden or of the scenery chewing variety. The fx remained pretty good in context though.

Sadly, these days both John Luc Picard and Richer get on my nerves, although I still like Data and Worf.

'Voyager' remains worth rewatching,if only for the pneumatic Seven-of-Nine' -and of course The Borg!

Thinking of having another look at Babylon Five and Deep Space 9.