An uncaused cause

[Tiberius]

Not a vendetta. A vendetta would have been followed by no argument against the KCA.

Whatever it is then, it stops now.

[Phil]

Not a vendetta. A vendetta would have been followed by no argument against the KCA.

Whatever it is then, it stops now.

Already has with him, look up. He was put on ignore.

[Tiberius]

Already has with him, look up. He was put on ignore.

That is irrelevant. It never happens again with anyone else.

[Phil]

Already has with him, look up. He was put on ignore.

That is irrelevant. It never happens again with anyone else.

There was no vendetta. What you are asking me is to never post again. Tell you what, if that is your wish - BAN ME - otherwise I will continue to post arguments as contained in this thread.

[genkaus]

Last time I checked the KCA is an argument for the existence of god. You telling me that the conclusion has to be believed before the premise is valid? IOW, the KCA is valid because god exists and you think anyone except a brain dead fundamentalist is going to accept that as a valid premise?

No, I'm simply telling you what a theist's response to your argument would be. I've seen enough to know what they'd say even if I cannot fathom the logic behind it.

[Tiberius]

There was no vendetta. What you are asking me is to never post again. Tell you what, if that is your wish - BAN ME - otherwise I will continue to post arguments as contained in this thread.

What I'm asking you to do is to give people a bit of slack, cut the attitude, and be friendly to people.

[Phil]

Last time I checked the KCA is an argument for the existence of god. You telling me that the conclusion has to be believed before the premise is valid? IOW, the KCA is valid because god exists and you think anyone except a brain dead fundamentalist is going to accept that as a valid premise?

No, I'm simply telling you what a theist's response to your argument would be. I've seen enough to know what they'd say even if I cannot fathom the logic behind it.

As it says in the OP, no Christian, Muslim or whoever else uses this bogus argument can do so honestly and if they do, everyone who reads this post now has the knowledge to rip it to shreds.
Your answer falls under dishonesty so it matters not one bit if they make that claim.

[Christian]

The "actual process", that is, the "cause of this uncause" can very well come from God. So your explanation fails badly.

[Phil]

The "actual process", that is, the "cause of this uncause" can very well come from God. So your explanation fails badly.

Either you haven't read the last few posts or you really are unable to think. Tell me, if you believe your life (which includes your brain) is a gift from an all powerful god, why do you spit in his face by refusing to use the gift he/she gave you?

[Jackalope]

The "actual process", that is, the "cause of this uncause" can very well come from God. So your explanation fails badly.

Perhaps. But can you demonstrate it? Because if you can't, its nothing but pure speculation, a bare assertion. Surely you have observed in your time here that speculation will get you nowhere here.