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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 12:26 am
(April 28, 2012 at 10:50 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: It is completely unjust that God would allow ourselves to be fully convinced instantly of such seemingly pointless facts, yet allow the supposed fact of his own existence to be so debatable that 80 percent of mankind will spend eternity in hell for not coming to the "obvious" conclusion.
All the things stated here are positive, so I believe you meant that 80% statement. Atheist say that Christians are not suppose to use Christian statements because they are bias, Well!
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 12:29 am
(April 29, 2012 at 12:26 am)Godschild Wrote: (April 28, 2012 at 10:50 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: It is completely unjust that God would allow ourselves to be fully convinced instantly of such seemingly pointless facts, yet allow the supposed fact of his own existence to be so debatable that 80 percent of mankind will spend eternity in hell for not coming to the "obvious" conclusion.
All the things stated here are positive, so I believe you meant that 80% statement. Atheist say that Christians are not suppose to use Christian statements because they are bias, Well!
So what? How does this answer my questions?
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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 12:32 am
(April 29, 2012 at 12:29 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: So what? How does this answer my questions?
I was not trying to answer your question, I was showing your bias.
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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 12:34 am
(April 29, 2012 at 12:32 am)Godschild Wrote: I was not trying to answer your question, I was showing your bias.
"I know you are but what am I?"
"I know you are but what am I?"
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Irrelevant. When you have some answers to my questions, get back to me.
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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 12:58 am
(April 29, 2012 at 12:34 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: "I know you are but what am I?"
"I know you are but what am I?"
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Irrelevant. When you have some answers to my questions, get back to me.
Seems to me the question I put before you is the only relevant one.
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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 1:02 am
(April 29, 2012 at 12:58 am)Godschild Wrote: ....
Seems to me the question I put before you is the only relevant one.
The only thing I could find that could be interpreted as a question is this:
Quote:Shouldn't you ask this of yourself, I have the information now what will I do with it.
I have no idea what that even means. Please sir, explain why you think it's the only relevant one?
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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 1:06 am
(April 28, 2012 at 10:20 pm)Godschild Wrote: Shouldn't you ask this of yourself, I have the information now what will I do with it.
We did. And the answer was "put it in the garbage pile with the other fairy tales".
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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 1:18 am
(April 29, 2012 at 1:06 am)genkaus Wrote: (April 28, 2012 at 10:20 pm)Godschild Wrote: Shouldn't you ask this of yourself, I have the information now what will I do with it.
We did. And the answer was "put it in the garbage pile with the other fairy tales".
That is one choice that you can make with the freedom that's your's.
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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 1:20 am
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(April 29, 2012 at 1:18 am)Godschild Wrote: That is one choice that you can make with the freedom that's your's.
So, since Godschild can't even answer a question about his own question, let's just go back on topic. I'm not going to let the 600+ words I wrote go to waste.
1. Is it a person's own fault that he goes to hell?
2. Is it wrong for a Christian to not share the gospel?
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RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 1:28 am
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(April 29, 2012 at 1:02 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: So, since Godschild can't even answer a question about his own question, let's just go back on topic. I'm not going to let the 600+ words I wrote go to waste.
1. Is it a person's own fault that he goes to hell?
2. Is it wrong for a Christian to not share the gospel?
1. Yes, why wouldn't it be, God says that no one will be judged by what another does.
2. Yes, when we have a chance to share Christ and we do not, we are in the wrong.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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