10 Arguments Against Hell

[Adjusted Sanity]

Hell makes sense if god's a tyrant who punishes people for being perceptive. Easier to run a kingdom if your subjects are gullible.

[BethK]

The difference between god and a human parent is that most human parents don't fucking stone their children to death for not listening, mor turn them into a pile of salt for looking back when they've been told not to. When human parents kill their children, they get life in prison.

God says to stone unruly children in Deuteronomy 21:18-21 Exodus 21:15, 17 says that children who hit or curse their parents must be put to death.

Under God's law, parents are supposed to kill their children. Not to do so is a breach of the law.

Humans have such more civilized standards on how to deal with unruly children. Timeouts, send them to bed without deserts, or even spank them is nothing on stoning them to death!

[Aiza]

You mean like Rabies, Diptheria, lungworms, African eyes worms and all the other good things your god supposedly created.

I am not a creationist, but no, I don't see disease as being "evil". African eye worms are living creatures--they can cause pain to humans, but humans certainly cause pain to other living creatures. A wolf isn't "evil" for eating a human for example.

[Godscreated]

The difference between god and a human parent is that most human parents don't fucking stone their children to death for not listening, mor turn them into a pile of salt for looking back when they've been told not to. When human parents kill their children, they get life in prison.

God says to stone unruly children in Deuteronomy 21:18-21 Exodus 21:15, 17 says that children who hit or curse their parents must be put to death.

Under God's law, parents are supposed to kill their children. Not to do so is a breach of the law.

Humans have such more civilized standards on how to deal with unruly children. Timeouts, send them to bed without deserts, or even spank them is nothing on stoning them to death!

You are wrong, I've explained this a number of times, and yet you refuse to listen, you do as you claim Christians do.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Everyone here knows that whoever believes in heaven and hell and Satan and god is completely deluded.

C'mon. Some of us are only halfway deluded!

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What is causing the punishment?

The punishment for the damned is the same as the reward for the good...having to live among people who think and act the way as they do. Think of it this way: would you want yourself as a permanent roommate?

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I still haven't heard a reason why some people "freely reject" God? Why would anyone reject God?

It's more like gradually denying your own humanity until you can no longer receive the Holy Spirit. For example, becoming habituated to torturing others...first you're disgusted, then you accept it, and eventually you start to enjoy it.

[BethK]

God says to stone unruly children in Deuteronomy 21:18-21 Exodus 21:15, 17 says that children who hit or curse their parents must be put to death.

Under God's law, parents are supposed to kill their children. Not to do so is a breach of the law.

Humans have such more civilized standards on how to deal with unruly children. Timeouts, send them to bed without deserts, or even spank them is nothing on stoning them to death!

You are wrong, I've explained this a number of times, and yet you refuse to listen, you do as you claim Christians do.

Yes, you've "explained" it. That doesn't change the fact of what is in your holy book. It says unruly children are to be put to death - by stoning - throwing rocks at the bound victim until he or she is dead. It's hard for me to imagine a crime a child could commit which would warrant the death penalty - and a death penalty meeted out in such a cruel, torturous fashion.

Civil laws of most countries do not permit such a thing.

[Godscreated]

You are wrong, I've explained this a number of times, and yet you refuse to listen, you do as you claim Christians do.

Yes, you've "explained" it. That doesn't change the fact of what is in your holy book. It says unruly children are to be put to death - by stoning - throwing rocks at the bound victim until he or she is dead. It's hard for me to imagine a crime a child could commit which would warrant the death penalty - and a death penalty meeted out in such a cruel, torturous fashion.

Civil laws of most countries do not permit such a thing.

Again you are wrong, the stoning is not meant for small children. I assume you're an adult, yet you are the child of your parents, yes, these are the children scripture speaks of. Good grief, as Charlie would say, how many times do I have to spell this out before it sinks in. Come to think of it maybe some on here are not adults.

[BethK]

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Yes, you've "explained" it. That doesn't change the fact of what is in your holy book. It says unruly children are to be put to death - by stoning - throwing rocks at the bound victim until he or she is dead. It's hard for me to imagine a crime a child could commit which would warrant the death penalty - and a death penalty meeted out in such a cruel, torturous fashion.

Civil laws of most countries do not permit such a thing.

Again you are wrong, the stoning is not meant for small children. I assume you're an adult, yet you are the child of your parents, yes, these are the children scripture speaks of. Good grief, as Charlie would say, how many times do I have to spell this out before it sinks in. Come to think of it maybe some on here are not adults.

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It doesn't say anything anywhere in the Bible the minimum age for stoning.

Even given the things I said about giving little children the death penalty (and those verses could apply to a 4 year old as well as they could a 40 year old), here's an instance of God directly using capital punishment for children who mock an adult - who is not even their parent.

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. -- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Here it specifically says "little children" who were teasing the prophet. On his say-so, God sent bears who killed the children - for misbehaving as children do. This seems to warrant capital punishment.

[Aiza]

Even given the things I said about giving little children the death penalty (and those verses could apply to a 4 year old as well as they could a 40 year old), here's an instance of God directly using capital punishment for children who mock an adult - who is not even their parent.

Here it specifically says "little children" who were teasing the prophet. On his say-so, God sent bears who killed the children - for misbehaving as children do. This seems to warrant capital punishment.

???

Nowhere in that passage is God said to have sent the bears.

Also the fact that "the Bible never says anything about an age minimum" is only remotely relevant if you pretend like the entirety of Scripture exists in a vacuum. It does not.

[Godscreated]

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Again you are wrong, the stoning is not meant for small children. I assume you're an adult, yet you are the child of your parents, yes, these are the children scripture speaks of. Good grief, as Charlie would say, how many times do I have to spell this out before it sinks in. Come to think of it maybe some on here are not adults.

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It doesn't say anything anywhere in the Bible the minimum age for stoning.

Even given the things I said about giving little children the death penalty (and those verses could apply to a 4 year old as well as they could a 40 year old), here's an instance of God directly using capital punishment for children who mock an adult - who is not even their parent.

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. -- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Here it specifically says "little children" who were teasing the prophet. On his say-so, God sent bears who killed the children - for misbehaving as children do. This seems to warrant capital punishment.

No need in me saying anything, Aiza has said it all.