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Atheists are Intolerant
RE: Atheists are Intolerant
Looks like the OP's shit and run drive-by troll was a success. 10 pages in a little more than 12 hours.
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
(May 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Looks like the OP's shit and run drive-by troll was a success. 10 pages in a little more than 12 hours.

No, I said what I wanted to say and came back to read some of the comments. They just weren't good enough to continue discussion. They were the typical irresponsible comments and attacks one expects on forums like this one.
As a P.S. I offer the 'funniest verse in the Bible' thread as evidence and other threads, posts and actions. The one example I used in the Op was merely just 1 example.

Since atheists are a small minority of people, they should just be quiet about religious displays and gifts instead of forcing their ideology upon everyone else. They do not like it when religious people bother them so the atheist should set the example instead of following suit.
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(May 6, 2012 at 4:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: Since atheists are a small minority of people, they should just be quiet about religious displays and gifts instead of forcing their ideology upon everyone else. They do not like it when religious people bother them so the atheist should set the example instead of following suit.
You really are clueless.
I respect you too much to believe that you could possibly hold those ridiculous beliefs. - Richard Dawkins, 2012
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
Given the inflammatory and overgeneralizing nature of your OP one should hardly expect any different.
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(May 6, 2012 at 1:59 pm)Abishalom Wrote: Do you see the resemblance (apparently not)? All he did was repeat my statement and dress up the part about atheists. That still does not answer my question about "killing in the name of Christianity". You claim that it is political reasons and not their lack of belief in God for atheists that leads them to do evil things (oh and you had to put emphasis on it being just "certain" atheist ie no true Scotsman) but Christians (no emphasis on "certain" or "just some" more like insinuating "all") are just following a book when they do evil things that just happened to result in them having political power (coincidence I guess). Apparently only atheist can have political reasons...

Actually, while I wasn't addressing that particular point, it does answer your question about "killing in name of Christianity" - you are just too stupid to get it. Christians can have political reasons, but when the religious reasons are presented as the primary excuse, then it is killing in name of Christianity. Take Bush for instance. While he may have been yelling "god guides me", he made no excuse of the fact that the primary cause of war was a political strife. He didn't use bible as justification for Guantanamo and that is why we don't vilify Christianity for it. Other wars which did use it as an excuse will be used as an argument against Christianity.

And saying "certain" is not using "no true Scotsman", because no one is denying that they weren't atheists. Its used to indicate that not all atheists follow the same philosophy (political or otherwise). All Christians, on the other hand, follow the same theology. So there is no need to put a "certain" there.
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(May 6, 2012 at 4:38 pm)genkaus Wrote:
(May 6, 2012 at 1:59 pm)Abishalom Wrote: Do you see the resemblance (apparently not)? All he did was repeat my statement and dress up the part about atheists. That still does not answer my question about "killing in the name of Christianity". You claim that it is political reasons and not their lack of belief in God for atheists that leads them to do evil things (oh and you had to put emphasis on it being just "certain" atheist ie no true Scotsman) but Christians (no emphasis on "certain" or "just some" more like insinuating "all") are just following a book when they do evil things that just happened to result in them having political power (coincidence I guess). Apparently only atheist can have political reasons...

Actually, while I wasn't addressing that particular point, it does answer your question about "killing in name of Christianity" - you are just too stupid to get it. Christians can have political reasons, but when the religious reasons are presented as the primary excuse, then it is killing in name of Christianity. Take Bush for instance. While he may have been yelling "god guides me", he made no excuse of the fact that the primary cause of war was a political strife. He didn't use bible as justification for Guantanamo and that is why we don't vilify Christianity for it. Other wars which did use it as an excuse will be used as an argument against Christianity.

And saying "certain" is not using "no true Scotsman", because no one is denying that they weren't atheists.[b] Its used to indicate that not all atheists follow the same philosophy (political or otherwise). All Christians, on the other hand, follow the same theology. So there is no need to put a "certain" there. [/b]
No you're just creating a double standard (you're just too stupid to realize it). Christian can have political reason. Okay well that's refreshing to finally get some honesty. But here's where you fail..."but when the religious reasons are presented as the primary excuse, then it is killing in name of Christianity." So Christians can have political reason, but when they present religious reason as an excuse it is no longer political. Your logic is way off. If they present a religious reason to push a political agenda, it is still a political agenda. That does not mean the bible teaches us to use religion for political gains. On the contrary, the bible teaches separation of church an state. SO anybody using religion for worldly gains is akin to a whore (hence whore Babylon).
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What about you? Would you call someone who does not believe in the bible to be a Christian?
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(May 6, 2012 at 4:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: They just weren't good enough to continue discussion.

Oh, so the christian tolerance which involved said rape and murder of the young girl who wished the laws of the country were enacted.. not worth commenting on.

You could at least say you don't approve of that behaviour.

Tolerance? You don't have any, and I find your lack of humanity disturbing.
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(May 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm)genkaus Wrote:
(May 6, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Abishalom Wrote: Well that's the point. According to yall, Christians do.

What about you? Would you call someone who does not believe in the bible to be a Christian?
That's not for me to judge. All I'm saying is that the bible does not teach the things that were done by the Catholic church. In fact it clearly speaks out against such things. It's that simple.
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