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Let The Fundies Shriek in Protest.....
#11
RE: Let The Fundies Shriek in Protest.....
(May 8, 2012 at 5:08 pm)Chuck Wrote: A creationist just dropped by to personally prove the first part of my hypothesis - that he and his kind is dumber than any ape - correct.

Now I just need to kill him in a human way so I can dissect his actual brain to his stupidity is based on mutation of duplicated gene.


It was a predictable response from him. Talking snakes are "real" and genetics is not.

You have to understand that Arch once told me that "if there is one error in the bible there is no hope for man." For that reason he clings to each word as if he were a hungry squirrel with the last acorn on earth. It's sad but his fairy tale belief system requires him to embrace ignorance with gusto.
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#12
RE: Let The Fundies Shriek in Protest.....
(May 8, 2012 at 5:10 pm)Tobie Wrote: You think anyone in the scientific world makes claims without evidence? They have heaps, otherwise they wouldn't think about publishing anything.

I don't see why you would have a problem with accepting things with no evidence, anyway.

Well... it does happen. And when it does, they get reamed in peer review. Which is part of why the scientific peer review process is so important, and why peer-reviewed sources carry weight (*).

(*) To those of us interested in discerning knowledge from bullshit.

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#13
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I can't wait for more Creationist reponses. Here's what I predict them to be:

"I don't understand the evidence, therefore it's wrong!"

"Gene duplication has been proven to be false!"

"Nobody has seen a monkey's brain evolve into a human's brain!"

"Evolution is just accidents and random chance. The human brain couldn't have happened by chance, therefore God did it!"

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#14
RE: Let The Fundies Shriek in Protest.....
(May 8, 2012 at 5:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You have to understand that Arch once told me that "if there is one error in the bible there is no hope for man." For that reason he clings to each word as if he were a hungry squirrel with the last acorn on earth. It's sad but his fairy tale belief system requires him to embrace ignorance with gusto.

He can chew his biblical acorn in a hole in his crucifix all he wants, but he will be wacked if he then runs around and deposit his biblical excrement everywhere.
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#15
RE: Let The Fundies Shriek in Protest.....
The only evidence that will convince him of evolution is a cat giving birth to a dog.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#16
RE: Let The Fundies Shriek in Protest.....
(May 8, 2012 at 5:49 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(May 8, 2012 at 5:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You have to understand that Arch once told me that "if there is one error in the bible there is no hope for man." For that reason he clings to each word as if he were a hungry squirrel with the last acorn on earth. It's sad but his fairy tale belief system requires him to embrace ignorance with gusto.

He can chew his biblical acorn in a hole in his crucifix all he wants, but he will be wacked if he then runs around and deposit his biblical excrement everywhere.



Yeah, mon ami. He's a real winner.
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#17
RE: Let The Fundies Shriek in Protest.....
(May 8, 2012 at 5:19 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(May 8, 2012 at 5:10 pm)Tobie Wrote: You think anyone in the scientific world makes claims without evidence? They have heaps, otherwise they wouldn't think about publishing anything.

I don't see why you would have a problem with accepting things with no evidence, anyway.

Well... it does happen. And when it does, they get reamed in peer review. Which is part of why the scientific peer review process is so important, and why peer-reviewed sources carry weight (*).

(*) To those of us interested in discerning knowledge from bullshit.

Do you really want to open up the peer review can of worms? it is not as holy as you make it out to be.
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Quote:It was a predictable response from him. Talking snakes are "real" and genetics is not.

Genetics is actually a fascinating study BUT keep in mind, just because a secular evolutionary scientists says something can't be done doesn't mean it can't be done.
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Quote:Nobody has seen a monkey's brain evolve into a human's brain!"

Secularists tout the scientific principle of 'observation' except when it applies to their favorite theories. Hypocrisy and a double standard is your downfall.

Quote:Evolution is just accidents and random chance. The human brain couldn't have happened by chance, therefore God did it!"

Well sometimes the only answer a believer hsa is 'Goddidit!' Believers do nto have perfect knowledge and need to study like anyone else to receive the correct answers.

Then, evolutionists can't explain myriads of changes in their supposed process and rely upon 'evolutiondidit!' so you are really criticizing yourselves.
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#18
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(May 9, 2012 at 12:17 am)DeeTee Wrote: Do you really want to open up the peer review can of worms? it is not as holy as you make it out to be.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. BTW, I don't recall stating that peer review was "holy". It's not perfect. Yes, bad research can be published - and when that happens, guess what processes discover the defects? Peer review and replication of results by other parties.

Do you have a better method to minimize the effects of personal bias and academic fraud, etc. other than opening up research for review by others with the necessary qualifications to critique it?

If you do, please, feel free to propose an alternative.


(May 9, 2012 at 12:17 am)DeeTee Wrote: Then, evolutionists can't explain myriads of changes in their supposed process and rely upon 'evolutiondidit!' so you are really criticizing yourselves.

P.S. Can you give a coherent definition about what modern biological evolutionary theory actually claims? Because based on your posts, I think you have no idea.
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#19
RE: Let The Fundies Shriek in Protest.....
(May 9, 2012 at 12:17 am)DeeTee Wrote: Do you really want to open up the peer review can of worms? it is not as holy as you make it out to be.

Yeah, it's only given us every single scientific advance that we have had since the ~1800's. Completely useless.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#20
RE: Let The Fundies Shriek in Protest.....
(May 9, 2012 at 12:17 am)DeeTee Wrote: Do you really want to open up the peer review can of worms? it is not as holy as you make it out to be.

Considering that religious claims can't be verified through peer review, I can see why you'd want to trash it.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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