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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 14, 2012 at 8:18 pm
(May 14, 2012 at 7:22 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: You do not even know my ideology, as to provide any criticism on it, friend.
Your ideology drips from your every argument.
(May 14, 2012 at 7:22 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: But there surely must be a reason why you keep continuing to provoke me by stating I'm inferior. Maybe because you felt provoked when I myself professed superiority.
Rightfully, of course.
I don't get provoked by delusions of another. I simply pointed out that you were inferior by your own admission.
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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 14, 2012 at 8:41 pm
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2012 at 8:46 pm by Gooders1002.)
Islam in terms of a major threat to the West, it is tiny over.Tthe last decade the whole Muslim population brought out 440 research papers, that's a smaller research foot print then Harvard. You may have a large number, but not the weapons to to be any major threat. If anybody is a threat to Western civilisation it is China as there smart, cunning and have the tech almost that to rival the USA. As for being miserable, I am pretty happy normally. Also no people is superior to anybody, just different.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
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Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 14, 2012 at 9:07 pm
While religious:
Catatonic Schizophrenia
Dissociative personality disorder
Bipolar disorder
Manic Depression disorder
Borderline Personality
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder
Addiction to heroin
Addiction to cocaine
Addiction to crack-cocaine
Acute insomnia, made worse by hyperintense nightmares
Several attempts at suicide
After starting the path of atheism:
PTSD
Insomnia, some intense nightmares
Depression
If atheists are miserable, it's still a huge improvement over how they used to be, if any of them are like me.
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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 14, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Simultaneously, and contradictorily, I have also heard that atheists have had privileged lives, and have never had to endure hardship.
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."
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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 14, 2012 at 10:23 pm
When I get down, I think of God, and it makes me at peace, maybe not happy, but at peace.
I don't know if I would be miserable without faith in God, but right now, remembering God brings me peace.
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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 14, 2012 at 10:56 pm
(May 14, 2012 at 10:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: When I get down, I think of God, and it makes me at peace, maybe not happy, but at peace.
I don't know if I would be miserable without faith in God, but right now, remembering God brings me peace.
Lemme ask you this much: What would happen if there were incontrovertible evidence that proved god were not real? Would you be able to find your own strength to make peace with the world, or would you succumb to despair? Or, more poignantly; do you think you, alone, could find it in yourself to find peace in your own views, without an outside source or outside input?
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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 14, 2012 at 11:09 pm
(May 14, 2012 at 10:56 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: (May 14, 2012 at 10:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: When I get down, I think of God, and it makes me at peace, maybe not happy, but at peace.
I don't know if I would be miserable without faith in God, but right now, remembering God brings me peace.
Lemme ask you this much: What would happen if there were incontrovertible evidence that proved god were not real? Would you be able to find your own strength to make peace with the world, or would you succumb to despair? Or, more poignantly; do you think you, alone, could find it in yourself to find peace in your own views, without an outside source or outside input?
Finding strength to live in the world is something else, being at peace with the world is something else.
Being at peace with the idea that everyone whom has died in the past and will die in the future, are all going to disappear is different then have strength to face the fact.
Being at peace that people suffer in vain is different then having strength to face that people suffer in vain.
I can see myself having strength possibly, I don't know, but I don't see myself coming at peace with it, but I don't know that as well.
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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 15, 2012 at 12:39 am
(May 14, 2012 at 11:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (May 14, 2012 at 10:56 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Lemme ask you this much: What would happen if there were incontrovertible evidence that proved god were not real? Would you be able to find your own strength to make peace with the world, or would you succumb to despair? Or, more poignantly; do you think you, alone, could find it in yourself to find peace in your own views, without an outside source or outside input?
Finding strength to live in the world is something else, being at peace with the world is something else.
Being at peace with the idea that everyone whom has died in the past and will die in the future, are all going to disappear is different then have strength to face the fact.
Being at peace that people suffer in vain is different then having strength to face that people suffer in vain.
I can see myself having strength possibly, I don't know, but I don't see myself coming at peace with it, but I don't know that as well.
Unless I'm misunderstanding, you're at peace by lying to yourself? I don't see how that helps.
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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 15, 2012 at 12:42 am
Am I miserable? Sometimes? Of course. Existentially,no; I'm far too busy being existentially angry and enjoying every minute,thank you very much. 
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RE: Atheists are miserable.
May 15, 2012 at 1:28 am
(May 15, 2012 at 12:39 am)Hovik Wrote: Unless I'm misunderstanding, you're at peace by lying to yourself? I don't see how that helps.
I don't believe I'm lying to myself.
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