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Is there under the ocean waves?
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RE: Is there under the ocean waves?
(May 20, 2012 at 11:16 am)FallentoReason Wrote: I was talking to some Muslims the other day at university. They told me that Muhammad said that Jesus never died on the cross, but instead it was Judas Iscariot. Apparently Allah literally transfigured Judas' face to look like Jesus and so he was mistaken to be Jesus and was put to death on the cross. So this is Muhammad's explanation of why Jesus could never have been divine because he never rose from the dead.

Now my point here is; if Muhammad was really communicating with Allah and he was speaking about divine things, then we have ourselves a problem. You sir in fact are on the same boat as the Christians. Show me that the Biblical Jesus existed, because until then I can only conclude that Muhammad was simply making stuff up.

Why Jesus returns to earth- - YouTube

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#32
RE: Is there under the ocean waves?
Well....I personally accept EVERY FUCKING THING I SEE ON YOUTUBE as irrefutable fact!

Good grief.
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#33
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eninn Wrote:Why Jesus returns to earth- - YouTube
I don't know if I watched the right video, but the one I watched doesn't give evidence for his existence. It was merely theological warfare against Christianity.

Do you have evidence that shows the prophet Jesus Christ ever lived?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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#34
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(May 20, 2012 at 10:00 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:
eninn Wrote:Why Jesus returns to earth- - YouTube
I don't know if I watched the right video, but the one I watched doesn't give evidence for his existence. It was merely theological warfare against Christianity.

Do you have evidence that shows the prophet Jesus Christ ever lived?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p86P2DuVHs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abs-tJjikX0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCL7jCqAEpQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLkx-Aub1tc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvh7BYv3K5o
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#35
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So most of that is nothing but fucking gibberish from your fellow-travelers which constitutes "opinion" not "evidence." I doubt you understand the difference, however.

You should read Misquoting Jesus. You'd be surprised how much of the science of textual criticism applies to your fucking koran.
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#36
RE: Is there under the ocean waves?
(May 21, 2012 at 1:40 pm)eninn Wrote:
(May 20, 2012 at 10:00 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Do you have evidence that shows the prophet Jesus Christ ever lived?

So that'd be a 'no', then.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#37
RE: Is there under the ocean waves?
In answer to your original question; yes, there are waves under the ocean. In answer to your contention that it somehow validates the divinity of Allah; no, no it does not. We have been fishing the oceans from way before the Quran was written; and we have been aware of these waves, probably just as long. Furthermore, the scientific discover you are alluding to was simply a more detailed and revealing observation of these sub-oceanic waves. A quick Google search shows that either the OP, or a group of like minded OP's Big Grin, have been spamming this revelation all over Atheist forums. Nothing to see here, folks, move along.

http://news.discovery.com/earth/deep-ocean-waves.html
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Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
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#39
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(May 21, 2012 at 1:40 pm)eninn Wrote:


Eninn, I would advise you not to respond with only videos and links when members try to engage you in conversation. We are not interested in what someone else has to say when the question is posed to you specifically.

I'm reasonably sure that English is not your native tongue, but if you don't attempt to converse you will be considered a spammer and/or troll and dealt with accordingly.

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#40
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I already consider him a spammer and a troll.
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