Messengers/Message

[Napoléon]

Nice wall of text.

[Cato]

The beggar's name is obviously Elijah. Any proper christian would know this.

I am not necessarily providing the links below for consumption, but as demonstration of how common the beggar as an angel in disguise motif is.

http://www.watkinsbooks.com/review/a-true-holiday-story
http://www.ibelieveinangels.com/Angel-St...eggar.html
http://www.spiritdaily.net/beggarsangel.htm
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/7987...-emissary/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic...angel.html

[Tempus]

Angels/messengers do exist, even if they are not the kind we like to make movies and write books about.

Reminded me of "Touched by an Angel" - god, I hated that show! The creators of that show were apparently hypnotised by the bizarre notion that it'd be a good premise for divine creatures, specifically interested in middle-class Americans' problems, to visit people and dole out advice. Meanwhile, the rest of the world burns like the living hell it is for so many people. Not the people fired from their jobs, not the people in a messy divorce, not the people who lost grandma last week, nor those in debt. No, I'm talking about the emaciated people who eat nothing because there is nothing. The people kept in basements where they're repeatedly raped by a family member, forced to bear children to them for decades. The people who live in war-torn, irradiated slums with high incidences of babies being born grotesquely disfigured. The children who had chemicals injected into their eyes in an attempt to change the colour; the children who were sewn together in an attempt to make conjoined twins. The people who were drawn and quartered, and every innocent man and woman put to death for crimes only they knew they didn't commit.

But come, let's just take this opportunity to thank God for your guidance and assistance where other's were not so fortunate. Of course, everybody receives guidance - some are just too damn stubborn to accept it! I wonder how many bawling wrecks of humans have prayed for signs and begged to be delivered from their misery only to hear nothing but the echoes of their own voice. I guess we wouldn't want to rob them of their character building, now would we?

[Cyberman]

Made up stories can be fun to read but the religious ones are just weird and somewhat.....silly.

Depending on how silly these things are, I often find them embarrassing. Not for my own sake; I'm embarrassed for the person telling the story.

[Manowar]

This is just madeup, lots of detail in that story to convince a skeptical audience. It's sad really when a Christian has to lie to make a point but i am not surprised most Christians are great at lying.

Manowar

[Drich]

Made up stories can be fun to read but the religious ones are just weird and somewhat.....silly.

Depending on how silly these things are, I often find them embarrassing. Not for my own sake; I'm embarrassed for the person telling the story.

I believe the term is selfmate

[Cyberman]

Funny thing is, I was just thinking that as I read your story again.

[Cinjin]

Did you get this little story from some Pentecostal's wet dream?
Also, god wants your money so much now that he's sending angels down to idiots to ask for a couple bucks?!!??! jesus, you'd think he gets enough cash from the billion idiots he's got workin for him.

Seriously, Drich ... you really should see somebody if you actually believe this story of yours. Either you're making it up or you stole it from someone else. Either way, if you believe this was an angel sitting in your car who could read your thoughts you need to get some SERIOUS help.


I'm just kiddin man. I know it's true - you would never lie about something so serious.
But hey, since it is true, could you ask your god to stop wasting time sending angels down to halfwit blowhards to talk to them about their fucking love-life and maybe send a few out to battered wives, starving children, tsunami victims, molested children, the overworked, the underpaid, the destitute, the cancer ridden, and the billions of others who need immediate attention. I mean seriously, how selfish are you?? I mean obviously god thinks you're really special, but since no one gives a shit about your lame-ass problems, could you, for the love of humanity tell your god to please use his resources on something that fucking matters!?!




Also, even in the bible, the "angels" weren't afraid to tell people that they were indeed "angels of the lord."
You need to work on your story. You see, psychics and mediums are considered VERY BAD in the Bible and I'm reasonbly sure that my 20 years in a fundamental Baptist church taught me that no angel of god would call himself a psychic. This story is utter bull shit!

[Drich]

But hey, since it is true, could you ask your god to stop wasting time sending angels down to halfwit blowhards to talk to them about their fucking love-life and maybe send a few out to battered wives, starving children, tsunami victims, molested children, the overworked, the underpaid, the destitute, the cancer ridden, and the billions of others who need immediate attention.

Aside from the obvious Tsunami victim status how do you know I have not suffered from or as a direct result from any or all of the other trials you mentioned? [Or was currently going through some if not most of the thing you mentioned at the time?]

I mean seriously, how selfish are you?? I mean obviously god thinks you're really special, but since no one gives a shit about your lame-ass problems, could you, for the love of humanity tell your god to please use his resources on something that fucking matters!?!

I glanced over the reasons my mom left and why I got kicked out and the reason for my visit to my uncle and the resolution to all of it, and will reserve the right to keep that part of the story for myself, but you can rest assured that my 'love life' was not the primary focous of this conversation.

I will say For me at that time, the injustic of it all was too much and I simply wanted to go Home to be with God. Maybe deep down that was the reason I gave a ride to someone who I thought was so threating looking. Eitherway things changed after that.

Also, even in the bible, the "angels" weren't afraid to tell people that they were indeed "angels of the lord."

Maybe I should have made the distinction. This wasn't a bible story. this was an account of an actual event.

You need to work on your story. You see, psychics and mediums are considered VERY BAD in the Bible and I'm reasonbly sure that my 20 years in a fundamental Baptist church taught me that no angel of god would call himself a psychic. This story is utter bull shit!

That's funny because this is the first thing most fundies point to. This happened in 95 or 96 so as you can imagine I have told the story a few times, and if I were looking to perfect anything I would have by now. The story is told to the best of my ablity to recount the events. Theological fundi flaws and all. It stands or falls on the merrit of what I can recall. Nothing added nothing taken away.

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The beggar's name is obviously Elijah. Any proper christian would know this.

I am not necessarily providing the links below for consumption, but as demonstration of how common the beggar as an angel in disguise motif is.

http://www.watkinsbooks.com/review/a-true-holiday-story
http://www.ibelieveinangels.com/Angel-St...eggar.html
http://www.spiritdaily.net/beggarsangel.htm
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/7987...-emissary/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic...angel.html

Not sure I understand why His name had to be Elijah, I can think of 1/2 a dozen time where an angel not name or not named Elijah was sent.

[Epimethean]

So, you stopped using crank around '96 or so?